(np) Common Sense imho

[Mark Kohut]

AP: CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelan government leaders ratcheted up
their attacks on their opponents Tuesday, with some suggesting the
opposition’s most influential leader and a presidential candidate be
arrested, as foreign countries including key ally Brazil and the U.S.
decried a lack of transparency over the disputed presidential election.

A day after President Nicolás Maduro
<https://apnews.com/article/maduro-venezuela-election-chavez-president-7ad0f6b14fa42224b8c2be2f09520d05>
 was declared the winner by a National Electoral Council that is loyal to
him and the ruling party, the attacks, which were aired on national
television, followed the opposition’s surprise release of detailed voting
data that it said shows that Edmundo González won by a landslide.



On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 10:20 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> REUTERS: Opposition party has 73% of the vote.......
>
> there are seven dead now....
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 8:19 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> 44 % in a country of 29 million could make a large groundswell, just like
>> Trump’s Maga groupies, but that doesn’t mean they won the election. The US
>> state department is not the deciding or even reasonable arbiter of election
>> results in Venezuela , and even they have not made a clear statement about
>> election fraud, just vague “concerns”. 11 people are already dead, and you
>> 2 cheer it on.
>>
>> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 5:00 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > There are many components at play, but I think the people who are now
>> > fighting with their own blood, add the sheer numbers of their
>> groundswell,
>> > want one simple thing:
>> >
>> > HAVE DEMOCRACY
>> > ENFORCE the will of the vote!
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 4:46 PM Michael Bailey <
>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.gregpalast.com/how-to-stop-putins-war-windfall-by-ending-our-embargo-of-venezuelan-oil/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> “This is a country which has a 2 million barrel a day OPEC allotment,
>> and
>> >> we’re getting almost none of it. And they have tremendous gas
>> reserves. So,
>> >> if the Germans are afraid that Putin will cut off their pipe, well,
>> stop
>> >> cutting off Venezuela’s pipe. Because it’s not only the United States,
>> it’s
>> >> the European Union and Britain, which are saying we won’t take
>> Venezuelan
>> >> oil.
>> >>
>> >> “And even more, we won’t let Venezuela pump the oil, because the
>> embargo
>> >> has stopped them from getting the parts and equipment that they need to
>> >> keep their oil industry running, which is quite complex because it’s
>> based
>> >> on heavy oil, so it’s very difficult without the parts, the expertise,
>> and
>> >> the funding.
>> >>
>> >> “For example, the Koch Brothers have a refinery on the Gulf Coast of
>> Texas.
>> >> They were the number one customer of Venezuela. We took the oil that
>> >> Venezuela sent us to the Koch Brothers’ refinery, and the US treasury
>> >> seized all the money. When Venezuela sells oil, they can’t get the
>> money,
>> >> so, obviously, they’re not going to sell it to us or to Europe because
>> they
>> >> can’t get the money, so their oil production is extremely limited.
>> >>
>> >> “People are literally starving in Venezuela, and they don’t have
>> medicine
>> >> to fight COVID. It’s cruel. It’s horrible. If Putin were doing this in
>> >> Ukraine, we’d be screaming and hollering, but yet we’re doing it to
>> >> Venezuela. And who’s suffering from it? We are, because we’re knocking
>> more
>> >> than a million barrels a day out of the world market.
>> >>
>> >> “This is a leftover Trump disaster. Trump cutoff Venezuela, ordered the
>> >> embargo, ordered the blockade. Why? Well, number one, they say
>> Venezuela is
>> >> not really a democratic nation. So, instead we’re getting our oil and
>> gas
>> >> from the democratic nation of Saudi Arabia? By the way, our biggest
>> source
>> >> of imports to the West is Russia. So the great democracies we’d rather
>> get
>> >> our gas from are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Russia, and Kazakhstan? These
>> are the
>> >> great democracies we’re getting oil from instead of Venezuela?”
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