CoL49 Group Reading - Week 1 Summary & Questions
Michael Bailey
michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Sun May 5 13:46:32 UTC 2024
Dude …. Wildman!
Unexpected change-up - nifty idea - giddy-up
I think that’s your idea here, switch to GR seamlessly, not spilling a drop?
Also easing the host burden by removing the synopsis (or making it
optional if anyone likes doing them?)
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:27 AM O G <octogonalyoyo at gmail.com> wrote:
> I happen to agree with this.
>
> As unsavory a phrase as "licking his chops" may be, especially with Pyn,
> that's the feeling I get reading 49. He was just warming up.
>
> So why not do the one that was...not a drill? The one where he actually
> bites in. Let's see how the author does with the second war, rather than
> sad suburban housewives.
>
> I don't recall much of GR, if anything, so I'll start.
>
> Ten pages a week. The thing with the summary of the ten pages at the start
> of the week isn't necessary. It's almost as fast to just read the ten
> pages. Summaries are a lot like summaries.
>
> Questions are always, questions questions.
>
> Questions don't have to be great or good, or remotely anything, just
> questions.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:29 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 9:57 AM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote
> >
> > *“But making a leap from obscurity to metaphor seems unwarranted.”*
> >
> > Ah! You have fallen unintentionally upon the central metaphor of this
> > novel! It is almost a perfect restating of the metaphor of Oedepa’s
> > journey: Conspiracy is a key metaphor for the search for existential or
> > spiritual or realistic or ANY kind of significance in one’s everyday
> > experience.
> >
> > Trust me: Pynchon was only licking his chops with this one. He is quoted
> as
> > aiming for GR to keep the scholars stroking their chins like they did for
> > Ulysses.
> >
> >
> > His gift to the readers of his pre-internet books, read in pre-internet
> > times, was to give them a nodding acquaintance with the obscure and the
> > hidden, and to point them ( as he did for Oedipa) towards unseen
> > connections.
> >
> > I don't believe that he was trying to become his own obscure material;
> >
> >
> > Yes, I know, he was a student (i. e. he sat in his
> > lectures for one course) of Nabokov.
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