CoL49 Group Reading - Week 1 Summary & Questions
J K Van Nort
jkvannort at yahoo.com
Sun May 5 14:37:27 UTC 2024
Greetings,
I’m fine with dumping the summary, but are we also saying that we’re not finishing CoL49? While I’m all for continuing the group read into GR, I still want to finish CoL49 first.
As to questions, many of the posts the first week posed or added questions. If we want to eliminate the hosting and just post based on 10 pages, I support that too.
When we go to GR, 10 pages per week will be less of a concern b/c I imagine most of us have a Viking pagination edition.
In solidarity,
James
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On Sunday, May 5, 2024, 09:46, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
Dude …. Wildman!
Unexpected change-up - nifty idea - giddy-up
I think that’s your idea here, switch to GR seamlessly, not spilling a drop?
Also easing the host burden by removing the synopsis (or making it
optional if anyone likes doing them?)
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:27 AM O G <octogonalyoyo at gmail.com> wrote:
> I happen to agree with this.
>
> As unsavory a phrase as "licking his chops" may be, especially with Pyn,
> that's the feeling I get reading 49. He was just warming up.
>
> So why not do the one that was...not a drill? The one where he actually
> bites in. Let's see how the author does with the second war, rather than
> sad suburban housewives.
>
> I don't recall much of GR, if anything, so I'll start.
>
> Ten pages a week. The thing with the summary of the ten pages at the start
> of the week isn't necessary. It's almost as fast to just read the ten
> pages. Summaries are a lot like summaries.
>
> Questions are always, questions questions.
>
> Questions don't have to be great or good, or remotely anything, just
> questions.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:29 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 9:57 AM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote
> >
> > *“But making a leap from obscurity to metaphor seems unwarranted.”*
> >
> > Ah! You have fallen unintentionally upon the central metaphor of this
> > novel! It is almost a perfect restating of the metaphor of Oedepa’s
> > journey: Conspiracy is a key metaphor for the search for existential or
> > spiritual or realistic or ANY kind of significance in one’s everyday
> > experience.
> >
> > Trust me: Pynchon was only licking his chops with this one. He is quoted
> as
> > aiming for GR to keep the scholars stroking their chins like they did for
> > Ulysses.
> >
> >
> > His gift to the readers of his pre-internet books, read in pre-internet
> > times, was to give them a nodding acquaintance with the obscure and the
> > hidden, and to point them ( as he did for Oedipa) towards unseen
> > connections.
> >
> > I don't believe that he was trying to become his own obscure material;
> >
> >
> > Yes, I know, he was a student (i. e. he sat in his
> > lectures for one course) of Nabokov.
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