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[J Tracy]

McGovern is writing mostly for an audience which is very familiar with the details of Russiagate . It is not easily condensed and my own memory no longer retains the names of the players. Aaron Mate has covered it in detail and Mcgovern has in the past. But I can’t remember the names of the journalists who most recently and thoroughly debunked the notion that Trump was under Russian control or that Russians so influenced the campaign to swing it to Trump or that there is any evidence that it was Russia who got hold of and leaked documents from the DNC to Wikileaks. The truth is our elections are about who is most hated and that was Hillary. If you are really interested I can look for a good thorough summary article. The extremity of the blame Russia mania was cartoonishly illustrated with the absurd claims by US intel communities with no evidence that the Hunter Biden Laptop was a Russian operation.  Also the idea that Trump, who changes his mind every other day and often twice in the same day, was ever under even his own control, let alone anyone else’s was always ridiculous to me.  As you may recall I predicted the outcome of the Mueller report on the list, and I despise Trump as much as anyone.  
  I had no technical problems with the article. 

I have laid out my arguments about Ukraine and Russia several times on the list and they have been consistent from the beginning and my predictions of how this would play out were unfortunately quite right. 3 times Russia has been invaded through Ukraine. The last time (WW2) they lost 25 million people.  The US and NATO have made it 4 at the unnecessary cost of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. 

Again I agree completely with this French writer that "Our Russophobia has nothing to do with Russia itself. It's a fantasy, a pathology of Western societies, an internal need to imagine a Russian monster. When speaking about Russia, the leaders of France, Great Britain, Germany, or Sweden are primarily talking about themselves. Russophobia is, without a doubt, a pathology. But above all, Russia has become an impressive projective test. Its image is similar to the Rorschach psychological test. The subject tells the psychiatrist what they see in random or symmetrical shapes. At that moment, they project deep, hidden traits of their personality. Russia is our Rorschach test.”

In my own life most of my relations with Jews and people who have lived in Israel are very positive and yet I loathe zionism as a force of racist violence. In the same way I love most Americans who are in my own circle of acquaintance, but despise US militarism and self-righteousness. I also know that I am no great hero of justice myself. Because of these complexities in my own life I tend to think our problems and solutions lie close to home rather than in some distant other. It looks to me as though human survival hangs on our ability to let go of self serving narratives and find common ground and treat others as we would like to be treated.

> On Aug 1, 2025, at 5:19 AM, Michael Lee Bailey <michaelleebailey at pm.me> wrote:
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> You make many valid points. It would be wrong to hold all Russians or USians responsible for the actions of the Russian or USian state. 
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> However - the article isn’t very convincing imho.
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> My main objection is that McGovern doesn’t share much detail nor suggest where to find data proving his assertion about Russiagate. That would be interesting.
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> Also the article locks up after each paragraph, making it nearly unreadable 
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> Frequent interruptions for ads for a Trump Derangement Syndrome t-shirt didn’t help either.
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> Other points -
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> It’s frustrating that Democratic campaigning wasted time on the Russian connection when Trump’s public record, corruption, platform, utterances were all on display offering opportunities for vigorous, hotly pursued rebuttal.
YES 
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> (Like when Senate objections on Kavanagh focused on historical sex crimes - and didn’t hammer on hard evidence that he repeatedly lied, consequential lies, in previous government positions)
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> Democratic platform and accomplishments also needed to be trumpeted. They really are different and better - not perfect, but much better.
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> Appointing Republican Merrick Garland who proceeded to slow-walk J6 and tease prosecution of Trump year after year - questionable 
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> Timid pushback on Gaza from Biden was still better than Trump cheering Israel on. That said, DNC needed at least one Palestinian on stage.
Here I completely disagree. Biden, who had taken in more money from AIPAC than anyone in the US government did nothing to stop the genocide and Harris promised to continue to fully support Israel. Both parties ignore the people and help murder civilians,  hospitals, journalists, and even US citizens without restraint.  
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> Succession planning for Biden should have begun in November 2020.
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