maybe The Small Rain influenced a few of Dylan's words in Desolation Row?

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Wed Dec 24 20:54:29 UTC 2025


not relevant to *The Small Rain.*...imo...

On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 2:56 PM Darah Kehnemuyi <darahk1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall", Dylan, 1963.
>
> Wikipedia says:
> *A momentous breakthrough for both Dylan and folk songs: notably, and
> without precedent, “Hard Rain” evokes the symbolist
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism_(movement)> imagery of poet Arthur
> Rimbaud <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rimbaud>. Contemporary Allen
> Ginsburg <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Ginsberg> saw the song as a
> passing of the torch from the Beats
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_Generation>, like himself, to a new
> generation, while Dylan's close associate folk singer Dave Van Ronk
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Van_Ronk> said the song was “unlike
> anything that had come before…clearly the beginning of a revolution”.[2]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Rain%27s_a-Gonna_Fall#cite_note-2>*
>
> Feel free to disagree...
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 24, 2025 at 01:50:49 PM EST, Mark Kohut <
> mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
>           Mine own attempt at a wee bit of possible creative influence...
>
> We know Bob Dylan and TRP knew each other.....(from *Positively Fourth
> Street*; because Tom's best buddy Richard Farina married Mimi Baez and
> there was Bob and Joan......).....so, thinking back on "The Small Rain",
> which Bob might have gone out of his way to find and read then we have
> these puzzling lines from
> "Desolation Road"....."everybody's making love/ or else expecting rain"
> ......nice oblique summary of "The Small Rain", yes? ...the  way Bob does
> it....
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2025 at 9:00 AM <pov at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > I bought it the week it came out. Very excited. But was so disappointed
> > reading it—because it didn’t seem to have the gargantuan flash of the
> > novelist.
> >
> > But in the urge to read Pynchon and putting off the big books, I pulled
> > it out the other night, and skipping the introduction—which I also did
> last
> > time (I will read it at the end this time however)--started in on “The
> > Small Rain”. So great this time around.  As good as it gets. 1959! and
> > totally contemporary. Billy Wilder once said to Eric Van Stroheim, whom
> he
> > admired, “You were ten years ahead of your time” and Stroheim paused and
> > looked at him and said, “Twenty, Billy, twenty.”
> >
> >
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