COL49 reference

[Michael Lee Bailey]

Hehe… gotta go back to the Civil War to find a friendly Russia

True, Western response to Russian Revolution was harsh - but not completely uncalled-for: c’mon, Lenin was draconian & Stalin satanic. Trotsky killed the anarchists & kidnapped people’s families to recruit soldiers.
Also, Marx’s program was full of stuff that obviously wouldn’t work that everyone had to pretend to believe. Like Amway, but with guns & torture.

Ray McGovern may be a legitimate commentator with lots of experience and the Democratic Party may be - ok, is - highly flawed, but the article seems like one of those long clickbait things that go on and on and never get to the point. And then when you finally find out what they’re selling, it’s expensive and undesirable.

- the fricken pee tape, have we forgot that the fricken Republican Party instigated that research?

- fricken Hillary wouldn’t have moved the US embassy to Jerusalem nor disbanded the fricken epidemic team

And Gump - ffs, are they seriously trying to imply his policies are *less* beholden to the military industrial complex? - he’s twice the bully & 10x as corrupt

- and fricken Kamala Harris would not be deporting citizens

On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 9:16 PM, J Tracy <[brook7 at sover.net](mailto:On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 9:16 PM, J Tracy <<a href=)> wrote:

> This is a quote from Ray McGovern -
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> "Forgotten is that the U.S. and Russia once enjoyed excellent relations. During the Civil War, for example, Abraham Lincoln called on Russia to send warships to warn the British and French to cease intervening in support of the southern Confederacy [as part of an effort to break up and weaken the U.S.]. Russia was paying the U.S. back a favor—as the U.S. had assisted Russia during the Crimean War. This is a history not taught in schools today—and it is ignored by most academic historians, as is the brutal U.S. invasion of Russia in 1918 with six other countries that effectively launched the Cold War. ↑ <https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/11/05/ray-mcgovern-the-man-who-got-russiagate-right-and-tried-to-warn-the-public-to-no-avail/#post-28164-footnote-ref-0>
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> This history is still an embarrassment to those who continue to-this-day to remain faithful and plentiful non-fiction members of the Peter Pinguid Society, may Yaheh ever continue to smoke their greasy petrified erections .
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