NP - A brief genealogy of the neo-anti-enlightenment figures (the Sons of Carl Schmitt and Joseph de Maistre)

[j e l]

"Using swimming pools of blood as a graphic count of the
carnage is perfect."

J.G. Ballard thought so too.

"Big Numbers..."

A dirty shame they never got to complete that project.


On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 10:31 AM Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk> wrote:

> They weren't Horace Bachelor and the Zebra Kid but Alan and Bill were a
> great team. Using swimming pools of blood as a graphic count of the
> carnage is perfect.
>
> They started a series about (fictional)  local and political goings on
> Alan's hometown. Big Numbers. Was meant to be 12 issues I think, the
> first completely black and white and one colour panel in the second.
> Last issue would be full colour. But those two were all they managed.
>
> On 11/05/2025 18:05, j e l wrote:
> > of interest:
> >
> > Brought To Light: Shadowplay - The Secret Team
> > by Alan Moore and Bill Sienkiewicz
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/BroughtToLightShadowplayTheSecretTeam
> >
> > --jel
> >
> > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 6:24 PM j e l <ssnomes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Emory recently discussed this:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr1378-team-trump-takes-the-field-part-4/
> >>
> >> you may recall:
> >>
> >> https://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/2020-October/213669.html
> >>
> >> https://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/2020-October/213670.html
> >>
> >> https://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/2020-October/213672.html
> >>
> >> --jel
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 1:42 AM matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello folks,
> >>>
> >>> The great Isaiah Berlin did a marvellous job in detailing the
> intellectual
> >>> arc of the anti-enlightenment thinkers and their influence on
> nationalism.
> >>> All the more pity we don't have him around today. However, we can look
> at
> >>> some of the players and those by whom they claim to be influenced. (For
> >>> example, we know about the connection between the Neocons and Leo
> >>> Strauss.)
> >>>
> >>> While some have mentioned Peter Theil's (misplaced) admiration of René
> >>> Girard, there hasn't been much discussion of his friend Curtis Yarvin.
> It
> >>> provides an even clearer case for the thread of anti-enlightenment
> >>> irrationalism that runs through most of the would-be Techno Lords. If
> >>> you're not familiar with this inflated scumbag, just take a look at his
> >>> Wikipedia page. He claims that US democracy has failed (presumably
> because
> >>> he didn't have a girlfriend until he was able to afford one), has
> defended
> >>> slavery, opposes civil rights, and is racist. This well-placed fascist
> is
> >>> in favor of what he and his pals call the Dark Enlightenment (sounds
> like
> >>> some Sith Lord Golden Age). What is that, you ask. Ok.
> >>>
> >>> Apparently, Curtis takes notes from Nick Land. An English philosopher
> that
> >>> in the 90's, according to the Wiki page, "drew inspiration from
> >>> post-structuralist <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-structuralist>
> >>> theory
> >>> and leftist <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics>
> thinkers
> >>> like Bataille <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Bataille>, Marx
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx>, and Deleuze & Guattari
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deleuze_and_Guattari> as well as
> science
> >>> fiction <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction>, rave culture
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave_culture>, and the occult
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_occult>."  He later had a breakdown
> >>> due
> >>> to amphetamine abuse and then moved to China where he now resides. Cool
> >>> guy. A genius.
> >>>
> >>> Now, there's nothing wrong with reading Bataille, et al. I did. But I
> also
> >>> realized that they were not the thinkers that would help me find North.
> >>> Sounds like Land wasn't a very good philosopher. Land's so-called
> >>> contribution is "accelerationism" which is basically rehashed Futurism
> >>> with
> >>> all its fascist trappings.
> >>>
> >>> "Freedom for the wolves," chant the angry INcel tech gang as they
> imagine
> >>> how they will exact their revenge. Yes, in their dreams they are the
> >>> Wolves
> >>> and you are the sheep. That freedom is not for you. Carl Schmitt's
> freedom
> >>> was not intended for Jews or anyone not sufficiently Aryan.
> >>>
> >>> This group that is actively working to subvert and demolish the US
> >>> Republic
> >>> is helped by Opus Dei that has worked diligently to radicalize
> students on
> >>> campus for the last 3 decades. Get "Opus Dei" by Gareth Gore and you
> will
> >>> see who has been busy shaping young people at Princeton and elsewhere.
> >>>
> >>> These genealogies must be brought to light and amplified so that the
> >>> conversion begins to focus on the fact that those who claim to be
> setting
> >>> the ship right are actually absolutely dedicated to its destruction so
> >>> that
> >>> they can hammer their "civilization" out of the rubble. Mussolini,
> Franco,
> >>> Hitler, Pinochet, none of them made their country better. They enriched
> >>> themselves and their friends while torturing and denying human rights.
> The
> >>> Orange Tyrant and his Silicon Valley supporters will prove no
> different.
> >>>
> >>> Down with Dark Enlightenment fascists!
> >>> In Solidarity,
> >>> mc
> >>> --
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> >>>
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