Various Threads

[sybil at celtic.co.uk]

Damn this list is coming thick & fast! I take a day out, and HOW many posts 
do I come back to?

Quoth Chris Stolz
>Hey, I think it is not entirely accurate to state that pop music
>became political with Dylan.  There is a long and honourable
>tradition of folk music with very political concerns.
	- granted, all points. I was using the term "pop culture" in (I 
think?) the context that Paul M. was using it, referring to a mass media 
phenomenon, and suffixed with "according to tradition" in a vain stab at 
brevity. Political song must have been around as long as history. Surely 
Perkin Warbeck and Wat Tyler must have had their sig. tunes, their warbling 
sidekicks...

Quoth Paul Mackin
>One last question: _Were_ the Sixties afterall just a short sweet wet 
>dream?
	- Too short for me to have experienced it, and certainly a wet dream 
if the dream was that things were going to all go one way from there on; 
others will have to testify as to sweetness; I grew up in a household which 
was trying desperately to pretend the 60s weren't really happening, that 
everyone would remember their place and get sensible some time real soon. Of 
course, the 50s never came back, and I don't think the authoritarian 
backlash will ever quite manage to screw people back down like before, 
although poverty & ignorance might. WvB's quote sounds consistent with Chaos 
Theory, for whatever that's worth. Did anyone read Kesey's essay Demon Box? 
"Entropy is only a problem in a closed system"?

Paul Mackin also alludes to Hakim Bey - I've been itching for an excuse to 
bring up Mr Bey! The Temporary Autonomous Zone cites Pynchon (his reading of 
the Zone being a formative influence on conceptualising the TAZ) - someone 
posted a take on the resolution of VL which vividly recalled the TAZ, but I 
don't remember who. I was going to mention HB at the time, but the moment 
passed...
	and a miniscule point: Wasn't The Hungry Eye in the Haight actually 
The hungry i? (How do I even know this????)

On the Nabokov thread:
	John Mascaro didn't find the Nabokov info in Matthew Winston's 
essay; I've reread it this afternoon and found no mention, although it 
might be elsewhere in the book (Mindful Pleasures, Essays on Thomas Pynchon. 
ed. Levine & Leverenz, Little Brown, Boston/Toronto, 1976).

	Okeydokey, marc.	

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