Various Threads

[Paul Mackin]

On Thu, 8 Feb 1996 sybil at celtic.co.uk wrote:

> Quoth Chris Stolz
> >Hey, I think it is not entirely accurate to state that pop music
> >became political with Dylan.  There is a long and honourable
> >tradition of folk music with very political concerns.
> And from sybil:- granted, all points. I was using the term "pop culture" 
> in (I think?) the context that Paul M. was using it, referring to a mass 
> media phenomenon . . . 

My observations were meant to exclude both worker movement type songs 
and Jazz.

> Of course, the 50s never came back, and I don't think the authoritarian 
> backlash will ever quite manage to screw people back down like before, 
> although poverty & ignorance might. 

Before the sixties, I always went to work with a tie and haircut.
 
> I've been itching for an excuse to 
> bring up Mr Bey! The Temporary Autonomous Zone cites Pynchon (his reading of 
> the Zone being a formative influence on conceptualising the TAZ) - someone 
> posted a take on the resolution of VL which vividly recalled the TAZ, but I 
> don't remember who. I was going to mention HB at the time, but the moment 
> passed...

I had been also been so-itching, and saw Chris's analysis of the 60s
from a Left perspective as a good chance.


> 	and a miniscule point: Wasn't The Hungry Eye in the Haight actually 
> The hungry i? (How do I even know this????)

My memory is vague on whether it was eye or i--it was definitely
lower case. But locating the place in the Haight rather than North Beach 
gives me a problem. Nobody went to Haight-Ashbury in the 50's, did
they? It hadn't been discovered yet (at least not by me). Could there have 
been two clubs that used this name?

The club I remember was very dark and austere. A group called the
Gateway Singer were often featured. It was common at the time to
dismiss them as "commercial", but I liked to listen to them anyway. My
favorite song was the one about John Foster Dulles. I _said_ it was
the 50's. 

One more question for San Franciscans: Is the house drink at Vesuvio
still Irish Coffee?

				P.