Various Threads
Paul Mackin
mackin at allware.com
Thu Feb 8 10:08:09 CST 1996
On Thu, 8 Feb 1996 sybil at celtic.co.uk wrote:
> Quoth Chris Stolz
> >Hey, I think it is not entirely accurate to state that pop music
> >became political with Dylan. There is a long and honourable
> >tradition of folk music with very political concerns.
> And from sybil:- granted, all points. I was using the term "pop culture"
> in (I think?) the context that Paul M. was using it, referring to a mass
> media phenomenon . . .
My observations were meant to exclude both worker movement type songs
and Jazz.
> Of course, the 50s never came back, and I don't think the authoritarian
> backlash will ever quite manage to screw people back down like before,
> although poverty & ignorance might.
Before the sixties, I always went to work with a tie and haircut.
> I've been itching for an excuse to
> bring up Mr Bey! The Temporary Autonomous Zone cites Pynchon (his reading of
> the Zone being a formative influence on conceptualising the TAZ) - someone
> posted a take on the resolution of VL which vividly recalled the TAZ, but I
> don't remember who. I was going to mention HB at the time, but the moment
> passed...
I had been also been so-itching, and saw Chris's analysis of the 60s
from a Left perspective as a good chance.
> and a miniscule point: Wasn't The Hungry Eye in the Haight actually
> The hungry i? (How do I even know this????)
My memory is vague on whether it was eye or i--it was definitely
lower case. But locating the place in the Haight rather than North Beach
gives me a problem. Nobody went to Haight-Ashbury in the 50's, did
they? It hadn't been discovered yet (at least not by me). Could there have
been two clubs that used this name?
The club I remember was very dark and austere. A group called the
Gateway Singer were often featured. It was common at the time to
dismiss them as "commercial", but I liked to listen to them anyway. My
favorite song was the one about John Foster Dulles. I _said_ it was
the 50's.
One more question for San Franciscans: Is the house drink at Vesuvio
still Irish Coffee?
P.
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