Ectoplasm

[Jan Klimkowski]

davemarc at panix.com writes:

> Again, in a literal sense I have trouble with these references to They.   
 I
> honestly don't see any sense in bringing Them into a historical   
discussion.

Andrew Dinn counters:

>Well, that's rather the point isn't it. It's not just whether they can
>get you asking the right questions, it's also what kind of questions
>you are allowed to ask. I honestly don't see any possibility of not
>bringing Them into a historical discussion. History belongs to Them.

History may indeed belong to a literal Them, but it's mighty hard trying   
to prove it.  Every now 'n then we paranoids catch a glimpse, a face   
turning towards us, never quite settling or focusing, easy to misread as   
any ink blot, snatches, probably meaningless...

The amazing hunt for the rocketeers is paralleled by another process   
which doesn't make it into the Official History: the scrambling after   
those biological warfare and mind control dudes.

The Japanese, with their wonderfully patriotic school textbooks, opted   
for a pretty seamless continuity: nine members of Unit 731 became   
Presidents of the Japanese Institute for Preventive Medicine, and the   
board of post-war pharmaceutical success story the Green Cross Company   
was stacked with 731 veterans.  The Japanese phrase "Manchurian Monkeys"   
which referred to Unit 731's experimental subjects was rapidly deciphered   
by Allied and Soviet intelligence: in reality, it meant Chinese POWs.

Meanwhile, Nuremberg tried some of the doctors responsible for heat and   
cold experiments, but the really Bad Boys just never made it into the   
dock or the historybooks. A handful of them have been traced to new   
identities, and nice new offices in British and American universities.   
 (Eg the real identities of a couple of the key scientists involved in   
that amazing piece of postwar pseudo-science, the Philadelphia   
Experiment, turned out to be hardline Teutons.)   Others, the practical   
sort, had secret laboratories set up for them in the Amazon Jungle.

A good starting place for anyone interested in the   
Official-Demonization-Versus-Unofficial-Recruitment of these Very Nice   
Men is Linda Hunt's "Secret Agenda".  For the finance & continuation of   
business, as Murthy sez, Christopher Simpson & co have done excellent   
work.

I believe it was a former British Foreign Secretary who recently insisted   
that his subjects grow up: (I paraphrase) 'we shouldn't think Third World   
aid is about aid, it's about business'.

A paranoid might suggest that for the global elites Knowledge is   
Knowledge - however obtained.

And, in passing, on the Occultism and Eugenics theme, Dan is spot on with   
his invocation of Arthur Conan Doyle.

It's perhaps worth noting that intrepid aviator Rudolf Hess was a very   
high-ranking member of the Thule Society, and that it's historically hard   
to differentiate between the English and German aristocracy.

jan