GRGR (15): Good & Evil (was Enzian...)

[Paul Mackin]

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, David Morris wrote:
> 
> I disavow any connection w/ NAMBLA (and personally am glad for laws 
> protecting children from the advances of adults), but some quotes from their 
> web-site:
> http://qrd.rdrop.com/qrd/orgs/NAMBLA/quotes
> 
> "It is quite difficult to lay down barriers [particularly since] it
> could be that the child, with his own sexuality, may have desired the
> adult."
>   - Michel Foucault speaking against age-of-consent laws, as cited in
> James Miller's The Passion of Michel Foucault (New York: Simon and
> Schuster, 1992)
> 
> "In those cases where children do have sex with their homosexual
> elders... I submit that often, very often, the child desires the
> activity, and perhaps even solicits it, either because of a natural
> curiosity... or because he or she is homosexual and innately know it.
> ... And unlike girls or women forced into rape or traumatized, most
> gay men have warm memories of their earliest and early sexual
> encounters; when we share these stories with each other, they are
> invariably positive ones."
>   - Larry Kramer, writer and founder of the AIDS Coalition to Unleash
> Power (ACT-UP), in Reports from the Holocaust (New York: St. Martin's
> Press, 1991)
> 
> "If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely
> erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the
> relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally
> mutual, then I would not call it pathological in any way."
>   - John Money, Professor Emeritus of Medical Psychology, Johns
> Hopkins University, in an interview in Paidika: The Journal of
> Paedophilia, spring 1991

Very interesting, David, and widely divergent from the picture of classic
child molestation I was urging p-listers to put out of their minds when
reading Gravity's Rainbow.

On the other hand we cannot put such things out of our minds. P does not
want us to. But if the writer can set traps the reader has every right to
seek extrication.

			P.