GRGR(5) Katje and the Nazis

Mark Wright AIA mwaia at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 9 21:22:37 CDT 1999


Sorry for the formatting f-ups; something hitched in the browser here
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> Howdy.  Tit for tat follows:
> 
> --- calbert at pop.tiac.net wrote:
> 
> > Mark Wright:
> > 
> > > b) Reference to SS, clear as a bell.  Clear as an azure sky of
> > deepest
> > > summer.
> > 
> > Not universally recognized, in spite of your insistence.
> 
> Yes it is.  I insist.
> 
> >  
> > > c) Reference to OSS, the Office of Strategic Services, which is
> > > referred to directly later in GR (where I can't recall just now).
> > This
> > > is more obscure, but the linkage is intended, I think, to imply
> > some
> > > possible equivalence between the two organizations.  CIA =
> american
> > > fascist pigs; very 60's.
> > 
> > Wish I had my Worlds Second Oldest Profession handy ( a great read 
> > for those who want to learn about the relatively recent development
> 
> > of national intelligence services) but as I recall the OSS was
> hardly
> > 
> > an established outfit, even late in the war. Individual branches of
> 
> > the service had their own intelligence functions, and the effort to
> 
> > consolidate them had mixed results. Will Bill Donovan was the guy 
> > chosen to create a unified branch, which he set about trying to do 
> > with the aid of one young Bill Casey.
> 
> 
> From Columbia Encyclopedia (is that an acceptable handy reference? 
> 
> "OSS, US World War II agency created in 1942 under the jurisdiction
> of
> the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the purpose of obtaining information
> about enemy nations and sabotaging their war potential and morale."
> 
> Sounds like they might be one of the shadows behind PISCES, no? 
> Might
> pull a few of Pirate,s strings.  A few of Katje's even.  PUDDING
> can't
> be in control....  I think MY reading looks stronger than YOUR
> reading.
> 
> 
> > > d) Countering the reading of moral equivalence in c above, would
> be
> > the
> > > reading of the nested Ss within a circle as Yin/Yang, which
> implies
> > SS
> > > and OSS as opposites in balance in a universal order.  (This is a
> > more
> > > appropriate reading IMO)
> > 
> > I prefer the SS carved into the mountain. The SS was not an 
> > intelligence outfit, that was the work of the Abwehr (sp) led by
> yet 
> > another high minded Junker who despised his boss. When he was 
> > discovered to have been a participant in the july 1944 plot, Hitler
> 
> > had him strung up with piano wire, and the process filmed. I'm
> afraid
> > that the OSS-SS link is extremely tenuous.
> 
> I respect your opinion, I just think you are wrong is all.  Think of
> SS/OSS as another of  GR's mandala images if that helps.
> 
> Mark


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