GRGR (2) "great bright hand"
MalignD at aol.com
MalignD at aol.com
Thu Jun 10 08:10:01 CDT 1999
mwaia:
<<Isn't P's crochet the concept of Preterition? That the Elect and the
Damned are not statistically determined but fore-ordained on an individual
basis? It seems that a good Calvinist would say that there is "very little
room for hope", indeed, for anyone who is not a Calvinist Christian. It
seems to humble heretical me that this runs counter to the whole concept of a
Final Judgement. It would seem one's love of Christ is not so much to be
weighed and rewarded, but that one's label (tattooed on your forearm at the
Inception of time) is to be read out at the last....>>
One can clearly push the wobbly statistical analogy too far (says he who
raised it). For the Calvinist, the Elect and Damned are not statistically
determined; that's true. The nub issue in Calvinist thought is that one may
not imagine a limit to the knowledge of God. It can't be the case that God
live in a state of unknowing re the fate of humanity or of individual humans.
Thus, HE knows who's going to fuck up, and how, right out of the chute. The
problem for the theologian who finds this persuasive is squaring it with
notions of free will. For the would-be believer, hopelessness and pessimism
are lurking bugbears.
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