NP - Ashcroft to Pursue Suicide Doctors

[Paul Mackin]

Question for Barbara--do you think trying to make yourself sound more ditsy
than you actually are make the tired old message any less rancid?

        P.
----- Original Message -----
From: <barbara100 at jps.net>
To: "Pynchon-L" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: NP - Ashcroft to Pursue Suicide Doctors


> The 'NEWBY' said:
> <and finally i do  not know the source or veracity of the number 7.5
million
> [ ] who "lay on the brink of starvation,"
>
>
> It was in Doug's post this morning.  In case you missed it, here it is
> again--
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11855
> It's a fine article.  I suggest you give it a read.  Try Noam Chomsky too.
> He's all over  http://www.zmag.org/ZNETTOPnoanimation.html  He's got his
own
> section practically.  I've been reading a lot of him lately.  The big
> project at work fell through what with the budget; I've suddenly got
nothing
> to do.  I tell ya, though, you gotta be tough. It's a hard truth to
swallow.
> I'm getting madder and madder by the day, thinking my government's owned
by
> a bunch of corporate conglomerates and managed by hi-tech terrorists.
It's
> very discouraging.  Almost makes me want to go live out in the woods with
> just me and my pig, you know?  Very discouraging. Sometimes I don't know
> what to do; I wanna give up caring about it, I feel so powerless. That's
> when I remember my belly's full and I'm warm and literate and I have a
voice
> and a computer and dollars to spend (or not)--there's no excuse for me to
> shut up and take it while others around the world suffer and die. It's the
> least I can fucking do.
> So how many you think's died so far? in those icy cold mountain hills of
> Afghanistan. Will you feel any better when  you hear the death toll reach
> 4800-5100?  I wonder what our own victims would have to say about that...
> Barbara
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11855
> " [...]Experienced, respected food aid organizations warn that even before
> the bombing of Afghanistan began on October 7, some 7,500,000 Afghans were
> [...] at risk of starving to death this winter. When the bombing began,
> almost all delivery of food from the outside world stopped. Now, roads and
> bridges are destroyed, millions more people are dislocated, and the snow
is
> steadily approaching from higher elevations and from the north. [...] aid
> organizations, along with voices from throughout the region, have been
> begging the United States to call off its bombing campaign, at least for
> long enough so that aid agencies can conduct the massive transfer of food
> into and throughout Afghanistan that is necessary to prevent death on a
> scale the world has not seen in a long, long time.
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: olio fargolio intempre <olio at hvc.rr.com>
> To: Pynchon-L <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: NP - Ashcroft to Pursue Suicide Doctors
>
>
> > dear barbara100: as a 'newbie' to the list i'll tread this minefield
> > carefully.  first, i thought this was a 'pynchon' list, in which his
work
> > would have a degree of primacy.  is this not correct?  second,
discussions
> > of this type actively pursued by all or some of us who have a vital
> interest
> > in the six areas of very important concern to which refer would create a
> > chaotic list, i presume.  however, i would be amenable to discussing
these
> > issues in a non-rant discourse, back channel.  i did not join this list
to
> > engage in the heavy intricacies of assisted suicide, abortion, the
> > viability of the soul, the number of unidentified, unverified afghanis
> > "blown to bits", (btw, i believe that there is conclusive proof that c.
> > 4800-5100 american innocents perished on september 11, 2001), and
finally
> i
> > do  not know the source or veracity of the number 7.5 million (close to
> 30%
> > of the population, i think) who "lay on the brink of starvation,"  nor
my
> > slight inference (deduced from your 'all caps') that about a month's
worth
> > of questionable aggressive military effectiveness on the part of the
u.s.
> > over 30 days could wreak starvation, so quickly, to so many, so
> effectively
> > that this number of afghanis would reach their terminal point of
existence
> > on this blessed and cursed earth.  finally, could you do me a favor? one
> > exclamation point is as effective as 4,  i understand these issues are a
> > source of upset to you.  i stand ready to discuss some or all of these
> > issues privately with you, as well as the hordes of bipolar schizoes who
> > frequent this list. ah, it is good to lose one's virginity in front of
so
> > many complete strangers.  love/olio/xxx
> >
> > I think it's pretty interesting that some of our politicians care so
much
> > for the terminally ill and the unborn, and work so hard to protect them,
> but
> > don't bat an eye when hundreds of viable souls are blown to bits
> > *accidentally* and 7.5 MILLION LAY ON THE BRINK OF STARVATION!!!!
> >
> > Makes a person wonder what's going on in their minds, ya know...
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