Quail's defense of rj/rjackson/jbor/?'s anti-Semitic slurs on the P-list

[Musashi Miyamoto]

Doug -

As an online journalist under fire, you need to watch your punctuation.
In particular, shouldn't "I'm not lying in this instance, I can demonstrate
it with posts from the archives." be "I'm not lying. In this instance I can
demonstrate it with posts from the archives?"

Henry "DC" Musikar

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Millison" <millison at online-journalist.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: re: Quail's defense of rj/rjackson/jbor/?'s anti-Semitic slurs on
the P-list


> Quail,
>
> Now why would you want to support rj/rjackson/jbor/?'s lies regarding the
> anti-Semitic taunts flung at Derek? Derek was very clear in his charge
that
> he considered what rj/rjackson/jbor/? and kai were saying was in fact
> anti-Semitic, and instead they kept it up and never did apologize. It was
> disgraceful behavior, and you do yourself no favor by trying to cover it
> up, too.
>
> As I said, it's possible that Derek misunderstood -- although the way the
> conversation played out it seemed clear that rj/rjackson/jbor/? knew what
> he was doing -- but after knowing that Derek was taking the comments as
> anti-Semitic, don't you think Quail that rj/rjackson/jbor/? and kai should
> have stopped?  Or do you think that it's OK to hurl anti-Semitic slurs in
> this forum?
>
> I'm not lying in this instance, I can demonstrate it with posts from the
> archives.
>
> ----
>
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0010&msg=213&sort=date
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, jbor wrote:
>
> > And maus lumping me in the same boat...(snip)
>
> > But I can see by his upcoming post that hypocrite maus's *only* real
> > purpose and context in ever corresponding to the list is injecting
> > venom and trading personal insults as well, which, in my book, is
> > attention-seeking behaviour at its most juvenile.
>
> First of all, asshole, my name is Derek, not "maus" (which is, as you no
> doubt know, not only my last name but an insulting hurled toward Jews in
> Germany, you little sweetie you...). If you wish to hide your little-frog
> self behind your bigpond.com alias, that's fine with me, but I have a
> name and I'd appreciate it if you use it when you refer to me.
>
> As to my *only* real purpose, why don't you refer to yesterday around 3
> p.m. in the archives and note my response to Rich Romeo's request for
> information on Melville biographies and decide for yourself which one of
> us is a hypocrite.
>
> Or better yet, how about this brief sampling:
>
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0009&msg=189&sort=author
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0008&msg=308&sort=author
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0008&msg=309&sort=author
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0008&msg=312&sort=author
>
> Or, hey, just for historical perspective, how about some from a little
> further back:
>
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9809&msg=247&sort=author
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9906&msg=202&sort=author
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9906&msg=205&sort=author
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9711&msg=178&sort=author
>
> I'm sure you'll find some occasional instances or sarcasm and failed
> attempts at humor, but I dare say I've been on this list for about two
> years longer than you and I don't think I've had anyone except you make
> this sort of idiotic insinuation before. I certainly can't say the same
> for you. You (and that dear boy Jules and a couple of other come-and-go
> flame-baiters) are, frankly, the only one I've ever traded personal
> insults with and I'm not particularly proud of it.
>
> So, in closing, bite me with all your onanistic vigor, jackson.
>
> Derek "the Yid with an Id" Maus
>
> ---
>
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0010&msg=264&sort=date
>
> ---
>
>
> Quail, this is a case where your knee-jerk reaction against me is making
> you look as if you side with some pretty creepy P-list behavior by
> rj/rjackson/jbor/?.  Is that really where you want to be in this
> discussion, Quail? On the side of a person who has already hounded at
least
> two respected Pynchon scholars out of the Pynchon-L discussion? An
> anti-Semite, based on his/her behavior with Derek? I suggest you give this
> some thought. As "Morris" says, birds of a feather...
>
> When you've realized your mistake, I'm expecting that you wll apologize
> for calling me a liar.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Doug Millison - Writer/Editor/Web Editorial Consultant
> millison at online-journalist.com
> www.Online-Journalist.com
>