NP St. Clair

Jeffrey St. Clair sitka at attbi.com
Mon Aug 19 20:04:58 CDT 2002


Herr Otto:

Why in the world would you expect me to "politely" respond to your scabrous and
ill-informed assault on my story? Would you expect me to be as "polite" as you
were underhanded in your "critique"? Is there some inverse relationship here
that I'm ridiculously unaware of? Train your slimey back-channel musings on a
story by Cockburn next time and let's see how "politely" HE responds. It would
be one thing if you were a reader of CounterPunch. But you're just freeloading
off the Pynchon list.

I guess you've grown accustomed to the tamed liberal lapdogs on the Pynchon
list, who have apparently let you and the other foot soldiers in the Neo-Con
Lit Crit goon squad, trample them under foot without a bleat of protest. Well,
tough luck dude. When you're called to task for defending a fascist snot like
Johnson, stand up and take it like man. Don't start sniveling about manners;
you're beginning to sound like Dick Cheney after being caught w/ his hand in
Ken Lay's pants. It's not a sound that anyone would want on their resume.

jsc


Otto wrote:

> I had received an e-mail from Jeffrey's co-editor Alex Cockburn which has
> been very polite & the way I had expected to get from the
> Counterpunch-people.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Cockburn" <alexandercockburn at asis.com>
> To: "Otto" <ottosell at yahoo.de>
> Cc: "Jeffrey St. Clair" <sitka at attbi.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: NP? Vineland (andf GR) echoes from a former (?) P-lister
>
> > Jeffrey will no doubt answer you Otto, but lighten up, for God's sake (and
> > theuse of the word God herfe  in no way represents commitment to the
> > theological tenets of Anglicanism, as embodied in the 39 Articles. Re
> Johnson,
> > of course he cribbed the design for the glass house from Mies's model for
> his
> > glass house in Plano, as PJ freely admits. So he built a synagogue? Is
> this an
> > anti-Fascist credential? Jeffrey didn't call him an anti-semite. Sharon
> > probably spends every SAturday in a synagogue and he's a Fascist.Nor does
> > public renunciation of Fascist bedliefs unless accompanied by some visible
> > intellectual andartistic changes mean anything. Clinton renounced his
> prior
> > conduct. You believe him? Mostly, in the later years PJ seemsto me a
> kuckster.
> > Go look at the Houston skyline.  Best, Alex Cocckburn
>
> My reply has been:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Hi Alex,
>
> thanks for your kind reply and I hope I haven't been too harsh in my reply
> to the Pynchon list.
>
> I have sent my message to Counterpunch too in order *not* to talk about
> Jeffrey behind his back so he's got a chance to answer me.
>
> And I agree in your criticism of Ariel Sharon (Sabra, Shatila & Jenin won't
> be forgotten) but you will understand that as a German (with one fascist
> grandfather) I am always very careful before I call another person,
> especially non-Germans, and even more the Israeli Prime Minister, a fascist.
>
> kind regards
>
> Otto
> -----------------------------------
>
> Just to let you all know. I'm sure Alex has no objections that I post it.
> Otto
>
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