GR evoking the Vietnam War?

Dave Monroe flavordav at yahoo.com
Thu May 22 11:52:38 CDT 2003


Okay ...

--- s~Z <keithsz at concentric.net> wrote:
> 
> I do think you are missing what terrance is doing.

This is hardly a difficult thing to do.  Terrance can
be elusively allusive.  "Accusations" here?  Surely
not ...

> Not much but it is mentioned directly. And I do not
> attribute my associations with Pynchon. I think they
> are my playful and entertaining associations. My
> additions all the way.

No, I think you're entirely right there, and I'd even
bet there's a case to be made for Pynchon having read
Frances Yates' The Rosicrucian Enlightenment.  Only
place I found that peculiar use of "enthusiast," for
example.  Much else of resonance, though I can't calim
to have done a hard-target search yet.  But published
in 1972, ca. TRP wrapping up GR, starting in on M&D. 
Very good call on yr part ...
 
> I find these accusations about how those who differ
> are just being obstinate because we can't see the
> obviosity of your position are pretty lame.

No, my "accusation," such as it was, was that y'all
can quite easily see just how easy it is to make the
same reading Paul and Otto and Doug and I roughly
share (vs. the one y'all and we all rather more
roughly DON'T share ...).  How reasonable, perhaps,
even.  You don't have to have made it yrself for it to
be eminently possible.  Indeed, by now we all seem to
be able to make each other's readings avant la lettre,
to argue in advance of an expected argument ...

Robert and Doug's motivations, in particular, I
believe are roughly (in more than one sense of the
word ...) the same here, even.  On the one hand,
political, and on the other, personal.  And not even
in that "the personal IS the political" sense, per se.
 They've agreed to disagree neither by choice nor by
default, but by obstinacy.  Now here's where they
agree to disagree with me ... but y'all jumped into
this in long predicatble fashion, along long
predictable lines.  Yr intervention here was a bit of
a surprise, but mostly because of the unusual extent
of it.  Good to see you as a full-on participant ...

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