NP Vollmann's "Europe Central"

[B C Johnson]

Re: NP Vollmann's "Europe Central"Based on so much of Europe Central as I've read, it seems that anarchy is the outcome of the collapse of Hitler's terror-state, and what comes after is possibly worse:  the routinization of terror, terror as a business, terror as part of one's daily routine.  In this respect, EC thus far reminds me of "The Counterforce" section of GR (albeit with fewer laughs).
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bekah 
  To: B C Johnson ; ruudsaurins at aol.com ; pynchon-l at waste.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:38 PM
  Subject: Re: NP Vollmann's "Europe Central"


  I see your point but I think it's rather beyond the scope of EC whether or not anarchy is what led to Hitler and Lenin/Stalin.   I've not read any other of Vollmann's books but I've read about them and it seems as though he might just address the issue  of anarchy directly.  Anyone read any other Vollmann? 


  Bekah






  At 1:57 PM -0400 6/26/06, B C Johnson wrote:
    To clarify somewhat:  I really meant "Spike Jones", the American musical anarchist.  Where Jones and Pynchon see creative possibilities in anarchy, King Crimson and Vollman see it as a condition precedent to autocratic authoritarianism (or that's my impression).

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: ruudsaurins at aol.com
      To: bjohnson02 at insightbb.com
      Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:22 PM
      Subject: Re: NP Vollmann's "Europe Central"


      Hoy! Hoy!
          As a long time King Crimson devotee, I am curious as to your observation.  I know Spike Lee and Pynchon, I know a little about Vollman (Rising Up/Down), and a lot about King Crimson.  It sounds as if I should try Europe Central sometime before the alleged release of the new Pynchon novel.  Thanx!
                                                                           truly,
                                                                           ruud

      -----Original Message-----
      From: B C Johnson <bjohnson02 at insightbb.com>
      To: bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>; pynchon-l at waste.org
      Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:39:35 -0400
      Subject: Re: NP Vollmann's "Europe Central"

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      I'm reading Europe Central and finding it just engrossing. As Pynchon is to Spike Lee, Vollman is to King Crimson. Tip o' the hat to bekka. 
       
      bekka wrote: 
       
      > You bet it is. One of the best I've read in years by anyone. I think it > could be a successful group read here. 
      > 
      > Bekah

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