ATD SPOILER p. 95

[Charles Albert]

Slutchainyi is also russian for "chance"....


http://ftp.vpcit.ru/cgi-bin/dict/bobo/trans?name=chance&ttype%3Aint=0

I suspect he is merely playing on the notion of "opposites" and further, on
the "bifurcation" of credit for technological advancement which was common
back in the days of the USSR.....

I'm pretty certain Dick Cheney is off the hook...


love,
cfa


On 11/29/06, Ande <andekgrahn at olympus.net> wrote:
>
>     Hadn't meant to knock the wiki--and I know that it can be edited and
>     re-edited-- so it is a tool that will grow in usefulness--however,
>     I__prefer__ discussion, especially when conjecture is
>     involved---case in point pg 95 as discussed or pg 123 --where I am
>     accorded a reference, based on a very off-hand and tongue in cheek
>     comment thrown into a discussion of puns on politicians names--I
>     know very little Russian--enough to know that Tovarishchi = Comrade,
>     and read the other word to sound like Slut Cheney  and so took it it
>     to be a play on  the Friends of Bill type-cabals often thought to be
>     responsible for a certain type of global mischief---it was a comment
>     that really only worked in the context of the discussion --wasn't
>     meant to become a reference...and since I'm not comfortable enough
>     with the wiki technology or etiquette I don't want to have go
>     explaining myself -out of context, or deleting something that
>     someone else thought was important...
>
> *Pyncho Wiki Pg 121  Tovarishchi Slutchainyi* Translates as Comrades of
> Cheney (according to Ande on Pynchon-L) "...notorious for promoting
> wherever in the world they choose a program of mischief..."
>
> The literal translation of "Slutchainyi" is "accidental". So that the
> phrase "Tovarishchi Slutchainyi" could mean someone who is friends, but
> not intentionally, ie: perhaps people who are conscripted into a
> situation where they are forced to be communal. (Thanks to Anna Zaytseva
> for the idiomatic help!)
>
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> Tim Strzechowski wrote:
>
> >(A plain text version of Original_HTML1.html follows):
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> >   I'm not a bit fan of wiki technology, but that's because html stuff is
> >   foreign to me.  With some experience on the site, I can get past the
> >   learning curve and make contributions.  I'd like to.  I think the idea
> >   behind the Pynchonwiki site (or any such comprehensive site devoted to
> a
> >   better understanding of complex text) is a worthy one.
> >
> >
> >
> >     > That's what a wiki is made for. People can complain
> >     > about what's in a wiki, or they can do something to
> >     > make it better serve their needs. Unlike a discussion
> >     > list where you can't go back and edit the Archives,
> >     > all you can do is keep piling on.
> >     >
> >     >
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