The Ice Storm & G

Joe Allonby joeallonby at gmail.com
Sun Sep 3 12:52:52 CDT 2006


It's all about manipulating the mythology.

On 9/3/06, pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Amazing and hard to believe, but there's a story on
> the front page of today's paper here about a Marine
> unit going back to Iraq for its FOURTH tour of duty:
>
>
> Marine battalion heads to Iraq for fourth time
> Tears flow as loved ones bid goodbye to unit members
> in Twentynine Palms
> by John Koopman, Chronicle Staff Writer
> Sunday, September 3, 2006
> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/03/MNG1NKUN0M1.DTL
>
>
> "Morris" isn't the only American dupe, of course,
> although it's him and millions like him who enabled
> Bush's crimes with their apologies and attacks on
> critics and protesters, not to mention the millions
> who don't speak up even when they realize the war is
> wrong,  but "Morris" may be the first - I haven't gone
> back to check the archives - to inject support for
> Bush's war propaganda and defense against criticism of
> Bush by fellow P-listers - into the Pynchon-l
> discussion, pretty amazing when you realize that he
> claims to have read and to have achieved some insight
> into Gravity's "A screaming comes across the sky"
> Rainbow, and that his first response, apparently,  to
> news of US bombs and missles falling on poor
> Afghanistan was to cheer.
>
> Jbor has done the best job of prefiguring in Pynchon-l
> the "fascist appeaser" rhetoric that Rumsfeld and Bush
> have lately taken to applying to critics of their war
> crimes. Puts him in appropriate company indeed -
> jbor's even imitated their habit of planting
> information in the press to support their otherwise
> discredited positions, when he (as reported) revised
> the Wikipedia entry on Pynchon to reflect the false
> information he has been peddling here about Playboy
> Japan for the past several years.
>
>
> --- Otto <ottosell at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I remember David's post very well, there were some
> > other initial
> > reactions to that incident that will be misjudged if
> > read out of the
> > context of those very emotional days five years ago.
> >
> > But whether one interprets September 11 simply as a
> > giant crime of
> > some political criminals backed by a totalitarian
> > government (and
> > therefore the Afghanistan war as justified) or as a
> > karmic retribution
> > for alleged crimes of various US-governments (as
> > Barbara did) or as
> > simply inevitable given the history of El Kaida
> > attacks before that
> > day I still see the problem that the current
> > president is continuously
> > abusing the attacks for purposes I don't understand
> > because they are
> > clearly and obviously not in the interest of the
> > American people.
> >
> > And now the Bushies fucked us Germans into their war
> > too . . . my
> > nephew is serving in the Marine . . . shit!
> >
>
>
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