The Ice Storm & G

pynchonoid pynchonoid at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 3 12:58:10 CDT 2006


No shit.  I guess it should come as no surprise that
even Pynchon readers -- all of us, one way or another
- are going to be as blinded by it as Franz Pokler.


--- Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's all about manipulating the mythology.
> 
> On 9/3/06, pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Amazing and hard to believe, but there's a story
> on
> > the front page of today's paper here about a
> Marine
> > unit going back to Iraq for its FOURTH tour of
> duty:
> >
> >
> > Marine battalion heads to Iraq for fourth time
> > Tears flow as loved ones bid goodbye to unit
> members
> > in Twentynine Palms
> > by John Koopman, Chronicle Staff Writer
> > Sunday, September 3, 2006
> >
>
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/03/MNG1NKUN0M1.DTL
> >
> >
> > "Morris" isn't the only American dupe, of course,
> > although it's him and millions like him who
> enabled
> > Bush's crimes with their apologies and attacks on
> > critics and protesters, not to mention the
> millions
> > who don't speak up even when they realize the war
> is
> > wrong,  but "Morris" may be the first - I haven't
> gone
> > back to check the archives - to inject support for
> > Bush's war propaganda and defense against
> criticism of
> > Bush by fellow P-listers - into the Pynchon-l
> > discussion, pretty amazing when you realize that
> he
> > claims to have read and to have achieved some
> insight
> > into Gravity's "A screaming comes across the sky"
> > Rainbow, and that his first response, apparently, 
> to
> > news of US bombs and missles falling on poor
> > Afghanistan was to cheer.
> >
> > Jbor has done the best job of prefiguring in
> Pynchon-l
> > the "fascist appeaser" rhetoric that Rumsfeld and
> Bush
> > have lately taken to applying to critics of their
> war
> > crimes. Puts him in appropriate company indeed -
> > jbor's even imitated their habit of planting
> > information in the press to support their
> otherwise
> > discredited positions, when he (as reported)
> revised
> > the Wikipedia entry on Pynchon to reflect the
> false
> > information he has been peddling here about
> Playboy
> > Japan for the past several years.
> >
> >
> > --- Otto <ottosell at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I remember David's post very well, there were
> some
> > > other initial
> > > reactions to that incident that will be
> misjudged if
> > > read out of the
> > > context of those very emotional days five years
> ago.
> > >
> > > But whether one interprets September 11 simply
> as a
> > > giant crime of
> > > some political criminals backed by a
> totalitarian
> > > government (and
> > > therefore the Afghanistan war as justified) or
> as a
> > > karmic retribution
> > > for alleged crimes of various US-governments (as
> > > Barbara did) or as
> > > simply inevitable given the history of El Kaida
> > > attacks before that
> > > day I still see the problem that the current
> > > president is continuously
> > > abusing the attacks for purposes I don't
> understand
> > > because they are
> > > clearly and obviously not in the interest of the
> > > American people.
> > >
> > > And now the Bushies fucked us Germans into their
> war
> > > too . . . my
> > > nephew is serving in the Marine . . . shit!
> > >
> >

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