NP; looks like the Dem Primary is kinda like Iceland Sparring.....

Thomas Eckhardt thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de
Fri Mar 7 06:01:00 CST 2008


Your points are well taken, David, and thanks for the background 
information.

Thomas

>Regarding a number of the points you make, I think you lack some
>insight into the details:
>
>#1 (You):  "willingness of the liberal/progressive community to comply
>and act like the last seven years have been business as usual"
>
>#1 (Me):  Unfortunately, even now, there is no such thing as a
>*unified* liberal/progressive community in the US.  The Regan
>Revolution decimated the Democratic party, which is only now
>experiencing a resurgence, largely as a response to the last seven
>years.  The advent of a semi-organized new more liberal Democrats,
>commonly called Netroots (closely associated w/ Howard Deans internet
>revolution last election cycle.  See also Daily Kos website for a
>Netroots hub)  is now at war with "centrist" democrats  called the
>"Democratic Leadership Council," which the article linked below calls
>"a group that came to prominence in connection with President
>Clinton's electoral victory in 1992."  I associate Hillary with these
>"centrists."
>
>This article give a good insight into the war going on within the
>Democratic party:
>
>http://www.nysun.com/article/36497
>
>#2 (You):  "Anyone on earth with half a brain knew in 2003 that this
>was a war of choice, violating international law and based upon lies"
>
>#2 (Me):  Like you, I was shocked that W got reelected because I
>thought the above also.  We underestimated the stupidity of the US
>electorate.  Of course the public was long subjected to the Saddam-Al
>Qaida connection lie, shamelessly repeated by Bush/Cheney long after
>it was proven false.  The last election proved that Fear and Ignorance
>are powerful tools for ruthless politicians.  I think Hillary's teams
>has decide to exploit that tool against Obama now.
>
>David Morris
>  
>




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