VLVL (13) - Cesare Lombroso

[David Morris]

I think Paul has hit the nail on the head:  "Simplistic but it fits."
It fits in a Pynhconian sense.  It is a schema, and GR shows that
Pynchon is/was intricately familiar with NO Browns take on Freud (and
thus the Oedipus complex).  Both father and mother complexes are
sexual at their root.  So it makes perfect sense.  The fascistic
fetish IS sexual kink, and Pynchon's schema of the power dynamic.
Remember, Pynchon is more concerned with power constructs emanating
from deep withing the psyche than he is with fleshing out fictional
characters.

David Morris

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM,  <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Did young people in the Nixon era really thirst for a daddy-fascist figure?  I don't buy it.  Frenesi's obsession seems more of a sexual kink.  There's no suggestion that she (unlike Lake Traverse) had particular need of a father figure, and it certainly doesn't spring from the anti-authoritarian, never-trust-anyone-over-thirty ethos of those days.
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> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>
>>Reagan is good. Brock is the father figure in Frenesi's Electra Complex.
feminine oedipus complex)
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>>Simplistist but it fits. There might actually be something to it in real life.
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