Re: James Bond was a neo-fascist gangster, says John Le Carré

[mfarcas at mail.com]

OK, pardon  my "conflated" lines. I wonder why you bothered to sketch an answer though. No need for it really.
Yet, to get back to my point, you still avoid to answer my dilemma. Perhaps you are incapable of doing so.

you wrote:
>as Bond was pretty much always fighting against totalitarians.

As Le Carre clearly associates Bond with 'gangsterism', I still wonder if you think that gangsterism, as long as is fighting 'totalitarians', is, according to you morally acceptable. It seems it is, I dare say, as you indirectly applaud 'gangster' Bond for his anti-totalitarian stance. Yet you seem to be at loss when it comes to justify the rationale behind it. I am not responsible for your muddled thoughts so the cheap trick of insinuating I am calling you names is really a puerile diversion. It does not amount to an answer.
Personally I think that 'gangsterism' and totalitarianism are closely related. So, how can you fight something/someone that is closely related to you? 
Unless it is a fratricide-like fight. Quite absurd. That is why Bond is in many respects an absurd, lifeless, counterfeited, artificial character. 
No wonder LeCarre dislikes him so intensely and rightly so.
Anyway... 
> James Bond was a neo-fascist gangster, says John Le Carré - Telegraph







-----Original Message-----From: Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com>
To: Pynchon Liste <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: James Bond was a neo-fascist gangster, says John Le Carré


Your name-calling crazy-talk conflation barely deserves an answer.
How can you read Pynchon and not appreciate the nuances of appropriate
actions.

AsB4,
٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
Henry Mu
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:12 AM, <mfarcas at mail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >So gangsterism, as long as is fighting "totalitarians" is, 
according to you, acceptable!
>
> I am really seduced by your rationale, Henry!

> was pretty much always fighting against totalitarians.
>
>
>
> Alright then. So gangsterism, as long as is fighting "totalitarians" is, 
according to you, acceptable!
>
> I am really seduced by your rationale, Henry!
>
>

>
> M. Farcas <mfarcas at mail.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2010 1:48 pm
> Subject: Re: James Bond was a neo-fascist gangster, says John Le Carré
>
> Yeah, but calling someone a fascist when they're just being bossy is
> rather juvenile.  I assume that Le Carre meant fascist in the
> totalitation sense, in which case I disagree with him, as Bond was
> pretty much always fighting against totalitarians.
>
> AsB4,
> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> Henry Mu
> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:50 AM,  <mfarcas at mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>When you think about it, why does Bond need to specify "not stirred"
> >
> > when he's already asked for his martini to be shaken.  What a fascist!
>
> > True! It is this obsolete and absurd Bond pedantry-cum-cruelty/faux
> > perfectionism (which is a hallmark of Fascism/Neo Nazism) that pisses me
> > off.
> >
> > And the choice of actors (more and more macho-agressive lately, think Daniel
> > Craig and his frozen mask-like facial muscles) fits the tableau.
> >
> > There is something of a steely, helmet wearing Wermacht soldier about DC in
> > spite of the actor wearing civilian clothes.
> >
> >
> >
> >

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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