TRTR(1) Eye Goddesses Wearing Dipthongs

Kai Frederik Lorentzen lorentzen at hotmail.de
Tue Apr 12 06:21:34 CDT 2011


David,

me thinks your model comes close to docetism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docetism

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

But there definitely is a "necessary" thing about or a /function/ of 
Pentecost:

Without the outpouring of the Holy Ghost the Christian urcommunity could 
not have been solidified.

There's also a parallel between the Trinity and the Indian Trimurti, 
though the correspondences have been overrated by early Western scholars.

Maybe this three-in-one happens to be of archetypical nature?

In ancient Greece, earthy Demeter was originally a triune Goddess ...

Kai




On 11.04.2011 21:46, David Morris wrote:

> I think your presentation here is a prime example of post-rationalization.
>
> There was really never any need, logically, for Jesus to be God.  In
> fact being God really devalues any accomplishment, because his
> humanity is really little but charade (I mean, really, God locked up
> into the body of an infant?).  His mission, logically (and in a manner
> which would fit better with Judaism), was to be the "Second Adam," to
> succeed where the First Adam failed.  He would be the "Son of God" in
> that he was born of "divine seed" (not genetically tainted by Adam's
> original sin).  This model is not without holes, but it is at least as
> "necessary" as yours.
>
> And speaking of "necesary," how does the Holy Spirit fit that label.
> No one has a clue what that part of the Trinity is for.
>
> David Morris

> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>  wrote:
>>> I've always been puzzled by why they thought that mattered so much. Not quite enough to read up on it, but puzzled. I mean, you're positing a tripartite Godhead, right? What practical implications does that have? What religious implications, even?
>> The Trinity was a necessary religious invention for a cruel and uncaring world.
>>
>> The world was an awful place for 99 percent of humanity.
>>
>> Only a fully human, suffering and dying, born-of-woman God could be  counted on to fully understand the plight of humanity in such an unjust world.
>>
>> But an all-powerful, creator God, someone with clout,  was needed also.
>>
>> A bit of a contradiction but that was OK. The world was already absurd. (still is)
>>
>> They settled on "same substance" the most absurd of the three choices. (bite the bullet)
>>
>>   It was the only one of the three possibilities that slammed the door on arguments over whether Jesus was truly human or truly divine.  (the rationalists wanted things real clear)
>>
>> Although Christianity had to be based on a contradiction, there didn't seem to be better answer available.
>>
>> Credo quia adsurdum.
>>
>> Tertullian or somebody.
>>
>> P

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