TRTR(1) Eye Goddesses Wearing Dipthongs
Mark Kohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 12 09:18:59 CDT 2011
Some intellectual--via publishing history. Americans gobbled up
the best serious writers in the 50s and into the 60s.......Mailer,
Heller, Vidal, Capote, others....sold in the near-millions in 'mass market'
after hardcover bestsellerdom.....they were all over the non-fragmented
media of radio and TV...'foreign movies' made money here
Non-fiction, solid history,etc and classics---which by the way were HUGE
during the War...sold even better.......................
Then came the slippery slope to the present....Vineland caught some of
that.............................
----- Original Message ----
From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 8:51:42 AM
Subject: Re: TRTR(1) Eye Goddesses Wearing Dipthongs
I'm currently reading Just Kids by Patti Smith and she and some of the folks she
hangs with seem to have some classical and/or intellectual background. Her dad
seemed to enjoy it. But it seems to fade as pop culture takes over. In my own
life there were only very occasional (rare) bright spots of moderately
intelligent discourse.
Bekah
On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Heikki Raudaskoski wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Paul Mackin wrote:
>> On 4/11/2011 9:41 PM, Richard Ryan wrote:
>>> People were still talking like that back in the late 70s, when I was a kid.
>> Guess it was (like Mark said) a case of where you were and who you were
>> with. My 70s was devoid of intellectual content. Wrong domestic
>> partners probably. I would have had to talk to myself.
>
> What public sphere of enlightenment there had been crawled neomedievally
> back into sanctuaries by the 1970s, with an all-wise hermit like TRP
> becoming something of a paradigmatic figure.
>
>
> Heikki
>
>>
>> P
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>
wrote:
>>>>> I like Gaddis because he recalls the 50s for me. Intellectual people DID
>>>>> talk
>>>>> like that back then. They talked about classical music and famous poems
>>>>> like
>>>>> the Waste Land and quoted a lot of things. They were imbued with a lot of
>>>>> European culture. Now it would seem affected but it didn't back then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, Wilderness.
>>>>>
>>>>> P
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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