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[Richard Ryan]

Adam was the disease; Eve was the cure...?

Is this another of those Jesus vs Aphrodite discussions?

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
> On 5/5/2011 12:13 PM, Richard Ryan wrote:
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>> Paul - are you saying that marriage is the affliction, or the cure?
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> Well, I guess it's the affliction but of course I was speaking  jocularly.
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> I was  localizing what St. Augustine, speaking globally,  called felix culpa
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> The fall of man that merited such a glorious redemption.
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>> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>
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>>> On 5/5/2011 9:52 AM, Jed Kelestron wrote:
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>>>>> my experience that females can sometimes be quite adept at pointing out
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>>>>> delusions of males.  (not that this will necessary always be the case)
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>>>> "Still, like other women in love, salvation was her original purpose,
>>>> redemption her eventual privilege; and, like most women, she could not
>>>> wait to see him to see him thoroughly damned first, before she stepped
>>>> in, believing, perhaps as they do, that if he were saved now he would
>>>> never need to be redeemed."
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>>>>     -- regarding Esther on p. 78
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>>> Patient: Doctor, I have a cold.
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>>> Doctor: We can't cure a cold. Wait until it turns into  pneumonia and we
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>>> Everyone needs saving (as a result of Man's Fate, Original Sin, or
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>>> you want to call it) but it is not always easy to RECOGNIZE this fact.
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>>> An implementer is needed.  Marriage can be a very useful part of the
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