Not overtly P. if interested, some analysis of American politics

[Keith Davis]

Truth may eventually emerge supreme, but we'll all be dead by then!


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes. And he may have been right. At least it's safe to say that modern
> governments all seek to suppress / censor voices, lest the views expressed
> prove toxic to the rulers.
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But the gist of Mill (grist of mill?) on censorship was basically let all
>> viewpoints be heard including wrong ones and truth will emerge supreme
>> (truth in everlast shorts holding up a boxing gloved hand, "the winner, and
>> new champeen")
>>  On Dec 18, 2012 11:54 AM, "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not too easily since the liers never/seldom admit wrong.  As this guy
>>> reminds using Mill, his vision of public dialogue
>>> was that self-correcting kind you speak of. Gone in many fora.
>>>
>>>   *From:* Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:24 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Not overtly P. if interested, some analysis of American
>>> politics
>>>
>>> It's funny, though...lies are deliberately false information but there
>>> is also incomplete information, wrong theories, and wrong assumptions in
>>> any discussion so a robust discussion needs to correct for these things to
>>> be any good, and the presence of a few or many lies can also be adjusted
>>> for, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>  and society via Mill and Freud and Arendt. Summary: Mill's public
>>> space of
>>> discussion to go back-and-forth now virutally gone since lies played no
>>> role in his
>>> argument. A lie-based group creates deep problems for aim-inhibited
>>> neurotics--
>>> the major other Group.
>>>
>>> Freudian metaphors remind me of the N.O.Brown, early Pynchon strain of
>>> seeing History.
>>>
>>> And newly-defined 'socialism' from the Left.
>>>
>>> http://nplusonemag.com/politicopsychopathology
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> - where the bee sucks, there suck I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


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