TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up

[Madeleine Maudlin]

What problem?  What are you talking about, man.  Is it a problem you are
having with something?

What is your problem?  You asked me what connections I'm drawing between
Pynchon and Jesus's invention.  I said none.

How is that a problem for you?

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:

> "I'm not drawing any connections between Pynchon and his invention."
>
> Therein, dear Madeleine, lies the problem...?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Madeleine Maudlin <
> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So you agree with me that Titus Flavius and his circle drew upon Hebraic
>> Texts to invent Jesus and write the Gospels.  I thought sure you'd
>> disagreed with me there?
>>
>> I'm not drawing any connections between Pynchon and his invention.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Without a doubt there exist real transference between the two, (and one
>>> may add a later Babylonian influence in the Post-Exile Books of Daniel and
>>> Enoch) but it seems that the ancient Hebrews did their very best to
>>> consciously subsume the Canaanite and Sumerian gods under one God, YHWH,
>>> thus creating something quite different... Call it "anxiety of
>>> influence"... the Hebrews, writing during the time of Solomon (who was
>>> reprimanded by YHWH for building temples to the diverse gods of his wives),
>>> drew upon the various Literature at their disposal to create a uniquely
>>> Hebraic Text....
>>> Perhaps we are nearing the relevance to this discussion... but can you
>>> help me draw the connection to P. and his invention?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Madeleine Maudlin <
>>> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How have I come to see the relevance here?
>>>>
>>>> What a wonderful question, Alex, thank you.
>>>>
>>>> "...for He hath weighed the world in the balance..."
>>>>
>>>> Ever wonder how the Sumerians, Alex, and the people of Avebury, when
>>>> you really look at it, they knew the actual correct physical weight of the
>>>> world?
>>>>
>>>> Ever thought about how so much of the Old Testament is based on
>>>> Sumerian legends?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Funny, how easily we Wander off-topic... or else neglect to properly
>>>>> state how we came upon a current thought-process...
>>>>> Interesting, Madeleine, but how have you come to see the relevance
>>>>> here?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Madeleine Maudlin <
>>>>> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I love James Clerk Maxwell!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just noticing this not an hour ago:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://atlasobscura.com/place/richat-structure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The explanations are within the parameters of acceptable
>>>>>> indoctrinated scientific discussion.  Vulcano! etc.  But I was wondering if
>>>>>> anybody has noticed how closely it resembles these somewhat recent photos:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/cassini20091209.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maxwell, following Reimann, venturing into higher dimensions with his
>>>>>> quaternions, hyperspatial aether, I wonder if he worked out the
>>>>>> temperatures around portals such as these?:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia12867.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All surely foreseen by that great mystic drunk from the northern
>>>>>> territories, Sir Hamilton..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well said. Of course, as one who switched  majors from physical
>>>>>>> chemistry to comparative literature… and then a science writer who kept
>>>>>>> finding mythical narratives deeply embedded in the aseptic official version
>>>>>>> of scientific progress (
>>>>>>> http://www.science20.com/monte_davis/field_james_clerk_maxwell-78111)... I
>>>>>>> *would* say that, wouldn’t I?****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Alex Colter [mailto:recoignishon at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:25 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Monte Davis
>>>>>>> *Cc:* alice wellintown; pynchon -l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not so sure that Mathematics is being satirized in AtD, I think
>>>>>>> perhaps P. has, since he was a youngun, possessed a very real sort of
>>>>>>> tension between a Mathematical or Thermodynamic World-View, and a more
>>>>>>> romantic Byron-esque World-View... the anxiety between the two and the
>>>>>>> various combats his Psyche engages produce a satirized portrait of Each
>>>>>>> Hemisphere, Literary and Scientific... our P. is both Timothy Tox with his
>>>>>>> Golem & Vaucanson with his Duck, both are, more often than not, invisible.
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Monte Davis <
>>>>>>> montedavis at verizon.net> wrote:****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's remarkably silly even for you.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of alice wellintown
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:56 AM
>>>>>>> To: pynchon -l
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> math is P novels is like physics in the big bang theory tv show.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
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