List of agnostics
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Jun 28 07:48:24 CDT 2012
And on...
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Lemuel Underwing
<luunderwing at gmail.com> wrote:
> is there some sort of Religious Paranoia or a Religion of Paranoia?
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Jude Bloom <jude at bloomradio.com> wrote:
>>
>> I dunno. We're in the midst of what seems unparalleled to me, at least in
>> modern times: the rapid growth of atheism, and the rapid decline in
>> religion. The intellectual & moral normalization of atheism. With the
>> attendant death throes and spasms, i.e. religious craziness & violence.
>> Plus, I think the fall-out from the Catlick priests & little boys is
>> underestimated. For many folks, the Church has been irreparably Sanduskied.
>> Although I see in re-reading Dubliners this week that Joyce was hip to those
>> guys all along, a hundred years ago.
>>
>> I credit Hitchens, myself.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Malignd, I think you are in the Wrong Place, good sir. Byron the Bulb
>> is still out there somewhere, a-shinin' down on us, Pynchonite Believers and
>> Unbelievers alike. The Chums of Chance are not one of those more Religious
>> Ballooning Clubs but some of the Crew are certainly more open to Spiritual
>> Experience...?
>>
>> There is a site called reddit.com/r/atheism that may be of some use to
>> you, but let us keep ourselves on Task, eh? Let us turn away from the
>> "World" and seek evidence of the Supernatural-in-Pynchon.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:26 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Theological niceties aside, what at bottom is faith other than an
>>> irrational belief in a supernatural spirit world, for which there is not a
>>> shred of evidence?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>>> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
>>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 7:20 pm
>>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:49 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm an atheist. The idea that there's a supernatural diety who created
>>> the universe and also listens personally to everyone's prayers -- that
>>> people believe this ... I can't understand it. It's the thinking of
>>> primitive people trying haplessly to explain the unknown to themselves and
>>> yet it persists.
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************
>>>
>>> your analysis of faith seems crude at best, but ok ... do your thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
>>> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 11:14 am
>>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>>
>>> It's hard to believe that all the people on this list would identify
>>> themselves
>>> as agnostics, rather than atheists (though it's possible that Pynchon
>>> might be
>>> an agnostic - there's no way of knowing, which, I guess, makes us all
>>> Pynchon-agnostics). Lots of people I know say things such as "I'm not
>>> religious, but I still think there's some sort of intelligence out
>>> there." I
>>> don't think they mean it in the Arthur C. Clarke sense, but more in a
>>> spiritual-lite fear of there not being some sort of overriding moral
>>> force
>>> guiding all that we do. Personally, I'm an atheist: there's no god, but
>>> if you
>>> want to be religious, shut the fuck up about it!
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>> >Sent: Jun 27, 2012 10:41 AM
>>> >To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> >Subject: List of agnostics
>>> >
>>> >Thomas Pynchon, (born 1937): Catholic-raised author of The Crying of
>>> >Lot 49 and Gravity's Rainbow. According to former friend, Jules
>>> >Siegel, "he went to mass and confessed, though to what would be a
>>> >mystery."
>>> >
>>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agnostics#Authors
>>>
>>
>
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