GR translation: more steeply than the waking will ever need

[Markekohut]

Perhaps all, each and every object? The contrast between order and randomness.

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On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should really have searched my own email before firing that one off.
> But this discussion of "the waking' is giving me new ideas.  Now I am
> thinking of the act of waking up from a dream, and the lingering
> images from the dream, which can be thought of as some kind of
> "debris".  Or is it actual debris floating and turning in the wake of
> a boat?  I may have finally gone off the deep end here.
> 
> Anyway, it seems reasonable to assume that "the ordinary debris of
> waking" are the ordinary, everyday objects around Slothrop.  Now the
> question becomes, which objects belong to "the
> paraphernalia of an order whose presence he has only lately begun to suspect"?
> 
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:05 AM, jochen stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2012/10/28 Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, David Payne <dpayne1912 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Although see how "waking" is used on p. 205..12::
>>>> 
>>>> "For a minute here, Slothrop, in his English uniform, is alone with the paraphernalia of an order whose presence among the ordinary debris of waking he has only lately begun to suspect."
>>> 
>>> That reminds me, what are these "ordinary debris of waking" anyway?
>> 
>> Until now I thought Laura had the right answer (from the 12th of June):
>> 
>> It's a nice thought experiment: you're sitting in a cluttered, really
>> messy room, because you're pretty much of a slob (the room's filled
>> with "the ordinary debris of waking.").  But then you're told
>> (Slothrop only suspects) that someone has selected certain items in
>> the room and moved them, slightly, without your knowledge, for
>> purposes beyond your understanding ("Their" order) .  Which objects?
>> Why?  That's how Slothrop feels.
>> 
>> Seems still plausible to me.
>> 
>> Perhaps we should ask Max what he made of the two wakings in his translation?