First Page of Bleeding Edge?

[Joseph Tracy]

Like Keith, I have enjoyed it all.  I simply find  it all tasty fare, each with its own endearing and challenging qualities, depths and shallows. And Vineland is one of my favorites; the world would be poorer without it. 
On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Keith Davis wrote:

> Seems to me Mr. P paid serious dues writing GR. It's gut-wrenching, mind-expanding stuff. Yet, he survived to write another day, and another. Doesn't seem fair to expect him to repeat the feat. He probably couldn't take it mentally or physically, let alone emotionally.
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> Personally, I've enjoyed everything he's written. Not saying it's all equal, just that I like his voice.
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> On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Okay, I'm not going to defend IV, nor this one but I am going to say the hidden density of AtD
>> Is still virtually untapped. 
>> GR is expressive, in-your-face density. Like the greatest of German expressionists. Munch?
>> Against the Day is the work of a magician of concealment. One of the greatest landscape artists
>> Ever---Turner with light writ so large it covers walls.
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>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Rich Clavey <antizoyd at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> Exactly. It was those mind expanding sentences in GR that when I read one I had to mentally catch my breath and wonder in amazement. And they were just piled one on top of another, seemingly, in that book. You can see glimpses of that kind of writing in his later books (especially M&D), but only here and there. I think revisiting that kind of dense connected writing is what I always hope for in a new Pynchon book. How many times can one read IV? After reading GR some 6 or 7 times I still read it with a newly born excitement. 
>>> Here's to hoping.
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>>> --- On Tue, 4/16/13, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>>> From: kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com>
>>> Subject: Re: First Page of Bleeding Edge?
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 5:11 PM
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>>> #yiv1570882932 body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}#yiv1570882932 p{margin:0px;}What's missing the most from VL, IV, and this early fragment of the new novel, are those mind-expanding sentences and passages that take you in multiple directions: organic chemistry tied to fascism, literacy as oppression, etc. Pynchon's not our go-to person for apt descriptions of hippie California or Yuppie NYC - plenty of sources there.  What made him great before the existence of the internet - his ability to see connections, and take us places we might never get on our own - are less exciting in the present, when all of us have the ability to become demi-gods, accessing information, if not insight, by tapping in to the nearest search engine. I'm not dismissing the new novel on the basis of that one excerpt. It may or may not be typical of the entire work. I sincerely hope it's not.
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>>> Write what you want, of course, but these Norman Rockwell images (I think first tossed in here by Millison) of TP and Jackson (wearing Yankee caps, Pynch teaching Jackson how to tie a fly) are retch provoking.  For all anybody knows he whipped the brat with a belt for failing to memorize the entirety of COL49.
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>>> Nothing like the Great P. who rode the Golem & the Rocket, who Wrote those other tomes, but so very dear and, yes Mark, Warm & Intimate, affectionate as if Jackson was peaking at an early draft of his father's work for the first time. 
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>>> From: Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
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>>> To: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
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>>> Cc: Tyler Wilson <tbsqrd at hotmail.com>; Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>; jamie <jamie at bigdada.com>; Henry Musikar <scuffling at gmail.com>; “pynchon-l at waste.or
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>>> Nothing like the Great P. who rode the Golem & the Rocket, who Wrote those other tomes, but so very dear and, yes Mark, Warm & Intimate, affectionate as if Jackson was peaking at an early draft of his father's work for the first time. 
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>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 4/16/13, Tyler Wilson <tbsqrd at hotmail.com> wrote:
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