Back to AtD. Back to Frank,

[Bled Welder]

Perhaps what is needed in this discussion, is some kickass Forwards of
tweets from dull moronic public intellectuals that no one cares a shit
about or wants to hear a fucking tweet from.

Maybe that'll help.  Slap 'er here:  [TWEET]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am soon going to complicate this opinion, I think, as I continue to post.
> As with almost everything, he satirizes many stances, and unties the knots
> of a nuanced position.....(which doesn't preclude 'ambiguous'--in Empson's
> sense--nuances and therefore possible 'positions'....
> I think here he is scoring on 'some urban professionals' who call this
> Mexican-based
> Revolution, 'liberal democracy.
>
> I suggest, flame me now, suchas the Weather Underground and their
> self-justifications for
> violence are scored here....among others.....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Back to AtD. Back to Frank,
>
> This chapter is typical of P's lifting of history; we can certainly
> identify the author's norms here, his political and historical point
> of view is evident; this is especicially the case in the phrase "some
> urban professionals' fanasy of liberal democracy" as this phrase
> evokes, from P readers, a sardonic wit that is the author's style when
> he provides commentary, and is  fundamentally Marxists to left-wing
> Anarchist in view, that is, his take on the historical events lifted
> from the pages of history, briefly sketeched, are sifted through P's
> critical sieve to expose the norms he proejects and evokes throught
> the novel, and these are consistant with the argument that P adopts
> after GR, as he turns his attention more and more to the stuggle of
> workers, to labor, and argues that a liberal democracy can not succeed
> under capitalism because  capitalism is class-based and therefore can
> never be democratic or even participatory.
>
> These are the politics of P. Not difficult to find. His norms are
> there in the commentary, in his selections of historical events, and,
> yes, even in his characters, in this case, Frank, who, though a pawn
> on P's chessboard, is moved on and in the squares of history.
>
> Of course, Pynchon is not commenting on Ahab, or Pyncheon, but the
> tale of land taken, haunted by the ghosts of the oppressed and
> murdered is more than mere allusion or favorable parody, but directs
> us to land issues that saturate, still, the geo-political conficts
> from Mexico to Brazil, and, of course, back to the States, and the
> lines, signaled up, and cut into the Earth...and so on.
>
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