Back to AtD. Back to Frank,
alice wellintown
alicewellintown at gmail.com
Sat Feb 23 08:36:50 CST 2013
Hume turns back to the P before AGTD to look for what she missed of
P's Catholics and discovers much that has been discussed and digested
by the critical industry, even to the Jesuit who preaches as Pirate
Passes Over and she contneds that AGTD, while certainly a light upon
those earlier christian and catholic themes is no mere continuance of
Catholic Grace, or Postmodern Catholicism, but a Metanoia. This, of
course, is impossible to know till we get more from Pynchon's Letters
and Essays and the like, but Hume, with the amphasis on the Jesuit,
suggests, though she only intimates, that a Farewell to Arms, a
soldier become a Jesuit, who begs for the grace of the Queen, not
England's but the Churches Queen may be somehow purge the violent life
of the N/Knight.
A Farewell to Arms (To Queen Elizabeth)
By George Peele
1558?-1597
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HIS golden locks Time hath to silver turn'd;
O Time too swift, O swiftness never ceasing!
His youth 'gainst time and age hath ever spurn'd,
But spurn'd in vain; youth waneth by increasing:
Beauty, strength, youth, are flowers but fading seen;
Duty, faith, love, are roots, and ever green.
His helmet now shall make a hive for bees;
And, lovers' sonnets turn'd to holy psalms,
A man-at-arms must now serve on his knees,
And feed on prayers, which are Age his alms:
But though from court to cottage he depart,
His Saint is sure of his unspotted heart.
And when he saddest sits in homely cell,
He'll teach his swains this carol for a song,--
'Blest be the hearts that wish my sovereign well,
Curst be the souls that think her any wrong.'
Goddess, allow this aged man his right
To be your beadsman now that was your knight.
On 2/23/13, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking of speaking frankly, is that a Sears Pancho, Frank? Or is that a
> Mexican pun Panho?
> Or is the P Zapping with Cozmick Debris?
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)
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> On Friday, February 22, 2013, Bled Welder wrote:
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>> What was the role of pedantry in the modern mexican rural
>> revolutionaries?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM, alice wellintown <
>> alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> In the Mexican history the urban professionals are Madero Revolution &
>>> Co., easy enough, but the fantasy of a liberal democracy extends
>>> beyond the context, beyond Mexico and the event that Frank is in the
>>> middle of. So, the urban professionals' fantacy is set against the
>>> rural revolutionary reality. To argue that P sides with the violence
>>> of the rural revolutionaries because he sides with their revolution is
>>> a misreading.
>>>
>>> But how can these better revolutionaries put away violence and bring
>>> about the changes that their revolution promised? How do they bring
>>> down those who used them, betrayed them, and now hold power?
>>>
>>> Violence won't get the JOB done.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I am soon going to complicate this opinion, I think, as I continue to
>>> post.
>>> > As with almost everything, he satirizes many stances, and unties the
>>> knots
>>> > of a nuanced position.....(which doesn't preclude 'ambiguous'--in
>>> Empson's
>>> > sense--nuances and therefore possible 'positions'....
>>> > I think here he is scoring on 'some urban professionals' who call this
>>> Mexican-based
>>> > Revolution, 'liberal democracy.
>>> >
>>> > I suggest, flame me now, suchas the Weather Underground and their
>>> self-justifications for
>>> > violence are scored here....among others.....
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
>>> > To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> > Cc:
>>> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:06 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: Back to AtD. Back to Frank,
>>> >
>>> > This chapter is typical of P's lifting of history; we can certainly
>>> > identify the author's norms here, his political and historical point
>>> > of view is evident; this is especicially the case in the phrase "some
>>> > urban professionals' fanasy of liberal democracy" as this phrase
>>> > evokes, from P readers, a sardonic wit that is the author's style when
>>> > he provides commentary, and is fundamentally Marxists to left-wing
>>> > Anarchist in view, that is, his take on the historical events lifted
>>> > from the pages of history, briefly sketeched, are sifted through P's
>>> > critical sieve to expose the norms he proejects and evokes throught
>>> > the novel, and these are consistant with the argument that P adopts
>>> > after GR, as he turns his attention more and more to the stuggle of
>>> > workers, to labor, and argues that a liberal democracy can not succeed
>>> > under capitalism because capitalism is class-based and therefore can
>>> > never be democratic or even participatory.
>>> >
>>> > These are the politics of P. Not difficult to find. His norms are
>>> > there in the commentary, in his selections of historical events, and,
>>> > yes, even in his characters, in this case, Frank, who, though a pawn
>>> > on P's chessboard, is moved on and in the squares of history.
>>> >
>>> > Of course, Pynchon is not commenting on Ahab, or Pyncheon, but the
>>> > tale of land taken, haunted by the ghosts of the oppressed and
>>> > murdered is more than mere allusion or favorable parody, but directs
>>> > us to land issues that saturate, still, the geo-political conficts
>>> > from Mexico to Brazil, and, of course, back to the States, and the
>>> > lines, signaled up, and cut into the Earth...and so on.
>>>
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