I've gotcher Gabriel Ice right here:

[Fiona Shnapple]

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/aug/16/left-vs-liberals/?pagination=false


On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:

>
> No, I'm talking about the Left.
>
>
> The Left would like to claim a radical heritage (Mother Jones), attack the
> capitalists, the privileged classes, the establishment, that includes the
> Liberals who co-opt  and take credit, but the Left is the enemy of
> basic political change.
>
> Good day to you, Sir.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Robin Landseadel <
> robinlandseadel at comcast.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'robinlandseadel at comcast.net');>> wrote:
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>> You are speaking of liberals, something distinct from the left.
>>
>> In any case, we are at cross purposes. Good day.
>>
>> And Anti-Oedipus speaks of self-destructive forces, as regards the totems
>> of power, that disable the "Left of the
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
>>
>>  Robin,
>>>
>>> You said that we were mis-reading by reading irony or satire into the
>>> author's political statements. Do you seriously think that left content of
>>> the kind P addresses in his writings is aligned with Mother Jones magazine.
>>> Journalists?
>>>
>>> We've narrowly escaped a Great Depression, and where is the Left? In
>>> court, not fighting for the poor, the working poor, but one another.
>>> Millions in the balance.
>>>
>>> No, I'm sorry, the Left sold us out. Look to Wisconsin. Look at how the
>>> Left sold out those brave Chicago teachers. How the sell out the rank and
>>> file in nyc. The Left content?
>>>
>>> In that intro to 1985 P describes Orwell as left of the left. The left
>>> in the us, and in nyc, is right of center.
>>>
>>> The characters carry the weight. Call them toons, it doesn't matter. Why
>>> do Ernie's daughters marry the men they marry? Why do they turn on their
>>> parents, on the poor people, the old folks living in the rent controlled
>>> apartments.
>>>
>>> The dude on the single sprocket bike, delivering, hated by the mayor, he
>>> may be a toon, but he carries a heavy theme.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Robin Landseadel wrote:
>>> Well then excuse me, of course the author shades all his characters with
>>> various degrees of pun potential and whatnot, al la Jay Ward cartoon
>>> studios.
>>>
>>> I guess I'm pointing to Left Content as opposed to Left Cartoons.
>>> Pynchon is nothing if not a master of cartoons. I mean
>>> seriously—Al-Mar_Fuad, pg. 757, Against the Day?
>>>
>>> I have hardly cracked DeLeuze 'n' Guattari, "Vineland" has a splendid
>>> and very telling citation—[Jesus Fucking Christ, you're making me look up
>>> this shit again]—From an online resource near you!
>>> " . . . Deleuze and Guattari are named in Vineland at the wedding of
>>> Mafioso Ralph Wayvone's daughter as authors of The Italian Wedding Fake
>>> Book, to which Billy Barf and Vomitones (disguised as Gino Baglione and the
>>> Paisans) resort when it becomes clear that they do not know any appropriate
>>> songs for an Italian wedding. They are only mentioned once, without
>>> elaboration, and it may be only another Pynchonesque throwaway, but if we
>>> follow the logic from Sister Rochelle's "Let her be" to Heidegger, the
>>> Beatles, and the Rolling Stones, the reference to Deleuze and Guattari
>>> extends the Vineland's exploration of how to contend with the "Cosmic
>>> Fascist" which has contaminated sex, politics, and representation.
>>>
>>>
>>
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