Ukraine Rebel Leader: Malaysian Plane was Full of Already Dead Bodies

[David Morris]

Isn't jailing Pussy Riot, and criminalizing homosexuality the hallmarks of
fascism?
How can you not see that?

On Monday, August 4, 2014, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:

> “In the long run, I am still very optimistic about Russia and
> Russians,” he went on. “In my two years as Ambassador, I just met too
> many young, smart, talented people who want to be connected to the
> world, not isolated from it. They also want a say in the government.
> They are scared now, and therefore not demonstrating, but they have
> not changed their preferences about the future they want. Instead,
> they are just hiding these preferences, but there will be a day when
> they will express them again. Putin’s regime cannot hold these people
> down forever. I do worry about the new nationalism that Putin has
> unleashed, and understand that many young Russians also embrace these
> extremist ideas. I see it on Twitter every day. But, in the long run,
> I see the Westernizers winning out. I just don’t know how long is the
> long run.” ♦
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:57 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/watching-eclipse
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:07 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> http://www.salon.com/2014/07/26/strange_bedfellows_putin_the_chomskyite_left_and_the_ghosts_of_the_cold_war/
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> What do we know for sure? That if the plane was shot down the weapon
> >>> used was probably a Russian made sophisticated system that is used by
> >>> Russia and Ukraine. So, if the weapon is identified,  it's unlikely
> >>> that the US or any member of NATO can be held directly responsible.
> >>> It's also unlikely that investigations will uncover the trigger man,
> >>> the smoking gun, the group or nation responsible for firing the
> >>> weapon.   The blame American and the West crowd will need to base
> >>> their blame on Geo-political and financial pressure & so on. And the
> >>> Pro-Western crowd will continue to blame Putinism. All sides will
> >>> amass the facts and evidence and all will amount to nothing. In the
> >>> end, the fate of Ukraine is in the hands of the West. Putin is toast.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Eckhardt
> >>> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>> For those who are, despite the deafening silence everywhere, still
> >>>> interested in the question why about 300 innocent people may have
> died :
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/03/flight-17-shoot-down-scenario-shifts/
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, I am not ruling out that this developing story based on one
> >>>> source is disinformation. Still, I find Parry's take far more
> believable,
> >>>> given the circumstantial evidence that I am aware of, and Parry's good
> >>>> reputation, than the official version, i. e. that, of course, the
> Russians
> >>>> are to blame and must be punished.
> >>>>
> >>>> And no, I am not denying that not all is well in Russia.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> -
> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>
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