Ukraine Rebel Leader: Malaysian Plane was Full of Already Dead Bodies

[alice malice]

Putinism : nationalism, religion, social conservatism, state
capitalism and government domination of the media.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:42 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't jailing Pussy Riot, and criminalizing homosexuality the hallmarks of
> fascism?
> How can you not see that?
>
> On Monday, August 4, 2014, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> “In the long run, I am still very optimistic about Russia and
>> Russians,” he went on. “In my two years as Ambassador, I just met too
>> many young, smart, talented people who want to be connected to the
>> world, not isolated from it. They also want a say in the government.
>> They are scared now, and therefore not demonstrating, but they have
>> not changed their preferences about the future they want. Instead,
>> they are just hiding these preferences, but there will be a day when
>> they will express them again. Putin’s regime cannot hold these people
>> down forever. I do worry about the new nationalism that Putin has
>> unleashed, and understand that many young Russians also embrace these
>> extremist ideas. I see it on Twitter every day. But, in the long run,
>> I see the Westernizers winning out. I just don’t know how long is the
>> long run.” ♦
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:57 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/watching-eclipse
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:07 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.salon.com/2014/07/26/strange_bedfellows_putin_the_chomskyite_left_and_the_ghosts_of_the_cold_war/
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> What do we know for sure? That if the plane was shot down the weapon
>> >>> used was probably a Russian made sophisticated system that is used by
>> >>> Russia and Ukraine. So, if the weapon is identified,  it's unlikely
>> >>> that the US or any member of NATO can be held directly responsible.
>> >>> It's also unlikely that investigations will uncover the trigger man,
>> >>> the smoking gun, the group or nation responsible for firing the
>> >>> weapon.   The blame American and the West crowd will need to base
>> >>> their blame on Geo-political and financial pressure & so on. And the
>> >>> Pro-Western crowd will continue to blame Putinism. All sides will
>> >>> amass the facts and evidence and all will amount to nothing. In the
>> >>> end, the fate of Ukraine is in the hands of the West. Putin is toast.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Eckhardt
>> >>> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> >>>> For those who are, despite the deafening silence everywhere, still
>> >>>> interested in the question why about 300 innocent people may have
>> >>>> died :
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/03/flight-17-shoot-down-scenario-shifts/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Of course, I am not ruling out that this developing story based on
>> >>>> one
>> >>>> source is disinformation. Still, I find Parry's take far more
>> >>>> believable,
>> >>>> given the circumstantial evidence that I am aware of, and Parry's
>> >>>> good
>> >>>> reputation, than the official version, i. e. that, of course, the
>> >>>> Russians
>> >>>> are to blame and must be punished.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And no, I am not denying that not all is well in Russia.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thomas
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -
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