Re: Günter Grass: the man who broke the silence

[Mark Thibodeau]

Have any P-Listers read Goebbel's novel, Micheal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(novel)

Feral House published it a while back, and the former Nazi propaganda
minister's estate tried to sue them for royalties.

MT

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If y'all wanna send me some recommended reading ... STILL haven't read
> my copy of the (relatively, now) recent retranslation of The Tin Drum,
> have only read The Clown (?) by Boll, + The Goalie's Anxiety at the
> Penalty Kick (Peter Handke, in the wake of finally getting a [VHS]
> copy of the Wim Wenders adaptation thereof), so ... Musil's the Man
> without Qualities, Mann's the Magic Mountain, Doblin's Berlin
> Alexanderplatz (sort of; also, the film adaptation [sort of]; wish
> someone'd translate his Tatsachenphantasie into English [see link
> below--!!!]), Hesse's Steppenwolf, uh, Goethe's  The Sorrows of Young
> Werther (can't recall if I started, much less finished, Elective
> Affinities, but it keeps coming up for me, so ...), have Fontane's
> Effi Briest (saw the adaptation, heard it was afvaorite of Beckett's
> [?!; also, Mann), The Tales of Hoffman (also, the Pressburger./Powell
> film, + the BFI book thereupon, but ....) ...
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=Lz_PaPZXZZIC&pg=PA226#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > a late discovery for me but Hans Fallada really impressed me. Every Man
> Dies
> > Alone, in particular. another man with a complicated history
> >
> > i see the goebbels family wants royalties from publisher of Peter
> > Longerich's new bio [in English] of Joseph Goebbels. expecting more from
> > this one than his previous bio of Himmler which i still required reading
> but
> > just like the man himself it gets bogged down in bureaucratic details and
> > tends to the dull. more to report on Goebbels and we have the diaries.
> cant
> > imagine what family is thinking
> >
> > rich
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> > <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19.04.2015 05:13, Dave Monroe wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/18/gunter-grass-tributes-man-broke-silence
> >>>
> >>
> >> > Most German novelists look southwards, like Thomas Mann, gazing
> towards
> >> > Bavaria, Italy and the biblical lands. Grass looks eastwards, and
> it’s a
> >> > cold wind he braces himself against.<
> >>
> >> Hans Henny Jahnn looks northwards, and Rolf Dieter Brinkmann looks
> >> westwards ...
> >>
> >> None of those statements, discussing the supposed uniqueness of Grass
> for
> >> German postwar literature, mentions writers like Arno Schmidt or
> Wolfgang
> >> Koeppen ( - whose 'Der Tod in Rom' with the Blicero-like SS-man
> Judejahn was
> >> published years before the 'Blechtrommel').  Whom they mention is, of
> >> course, Heinrich Böll. A more likable guy than Grass, but certainly not
> a
> >> great writer.
> >>
> >> (Regarding the moral issue: You cannot teach your nation on a weekly
> basis
> >> for decades and then come around the corner with the facts about your
> own
> >> share of evil.)
> >> -
> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
> >
> >
> -
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