Re: Günter Grass: the man who broke the silence
Dave Monroe
against.the.dave at gmail.com
Sun Apr 19 17:23:29 CDT 2015
... sorry, for "Tatsachenphantasie" sub "Berge Meere und Giganten."
Thanks, Jochen Siremmel!
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> If y'all wanna send me some recommended reading ... STILL haven't read
> my copy of the (relatively, now) recent retranslation of The Tin Drum,
> have only read The Clown (?) by Boll, + The Goalie's Anxiety at the
> Penalty Kick (Peter Handke, in the wake of finally getting a [VHS]
> copy of the Wim Wenders adaptation thereof), so ... Musil's the Man
> without Qualities, Mann's the Magic Mountain, Doblin's Berlin
> Alexanderplatz (sort of; also, the film adaptation [sort of]; wish
> someone'd translate his Tatsachenphantasie into English [see link
> below--!!!]), Hesse's Steppenwolf, uh, Goethe's The Sorrows of Young
> Werther (can't recall if I started, much less finished, Elective
> Affinities, but it keeps coming up for me, so ...), have Fontane's
> Effi Briest (saw the adaptation, heard it was afvaorite of Beckett's
> [?!; also, Mann), The Tales of Hoffman (also, the Pressburger./Powell
> film, + the BFI book thereupon, but ....) ...
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=Lz_PaPZXZZIC&pg=PA226#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> a late discovery for me but Hans Fallada really impressed me. Every Man Dies
>> Alone, in particular. another man with a complicated history
>>
>> i see the goebbels family wants royalties from publisher of Peter
>> Longerich's new bio [in English] of Joseph Goebbels. expecting more from
>> this one than his previous bio of Himmler which i still required reading but
>> just like the man himself it gets bogged down in bureaucratic details and
>> tends to the dull. more to report on Goebbels and we have the diaries. cant
>> imagine what family is thinking
>>
>> rich
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19.04.2015 05:13, Dave Monroe wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/18/gunter-grass-tributes-man-broke-silence
>>>>
>>>
>>> > Most German novelists look southwards, like Thomas Mann, gazing towards
>>> > Bavaria, Italy and the biblical lands. Grass looks eastwards, and it’s a
>>> > cold wind he braces himself against.<
>>>
>>> Hans Henny Jahnn looks northwards, and Rolf Dieter Brinkmann looks
>>> westwards ...
>>>
>>> None of those statements, discussing the supposed uniqueness of Grass for
>>> German postwar literature, mentions writers like Arno Schmidt or Wolfgang
>>> Koeppen ( - whose 'Der Tod in Rom' with the Blicero-like SS-man Judejahn was
>>> published years before the 'Blechtrommel'). Whom they mention is, of
>>> course, Heinrich Böll. A more likable guy than Grass, but certainly not a
>>> great writer.
>>>
>>> (Regarding the moral issue: You cannot teach your nation on a weekly basis
>>> for decades and then come around the corner with the facts about your own
>>> share of evil.)
>>> -
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>>
>>
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