GR translation: have been faces of children out the train windows

Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Sun Aug 30 00:44:14 CDT 2015


https://books.google.com/books?id=tIDNu7Lr0d4C&pg=PA242

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Dave Monroe
<against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> ... I think that's pretty much it.  That cause/effect relationship is
> inverted nigh unto relentlessly in GR (e.g., Slothrop's map).  Maybe
> not QUITE (?) an example of hysteron proteron here ...
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteron_proteron
>
> http://rhetoric.byu.edu/figures/H/hysteron%20proteron.htm
>
> ... but see. e.g., ...
>
> Hysteron Proteron in Gravity's Rainbow
> Steven Weisenburger
> Texas Studies in Literature and Language
> Vol. 34, No. 1, Contemporary Anatomies of Precedence (SPRING 1992), pp. 87-105
>
> http://www.jstor.org/stable/40754970
>
> Fables of Subversion:
> Satire and the American Novel
> Steven C. Weisenburger
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=tIDNu7Lr0d4C&pg=PA243
>
> http://www.ugapress.org/index.php/books/fables_of_subversion/
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Mike Jing
> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> V626.3-15   . . . picking up rusted beer cans, rubbers yellow with preterite
>> seed, Kleenex wadded to brain shapes hiding preterite snot, preterite tears,
>> newspapers, broken glass, pieces of automobile, days when in superstition
>> and fright he could make it all fit, seeing clearly in each an entry in a
>> record, a history: his own, his winter’s, his country’s . . . instructing
>> him, dunce and drifter, in ways deeper than he can explain, have been faces
>> of children out the train windows, two bars of dance music somewhere, in
>> some other street at night, needles and branches of a pine tree shaken clear
>> and luminous against night clouds, one circuit diagram out of hundreds in a
>> smudged yellowing sheaf, laughter out of a cornfield in the early morning as
>> he was walking to school, the idling of a motorcycle at one dusk-heavy hour
>> of the summer . . .
>>
>> How does "have been" fit into the overall structure of the sentence?
>>
>> I understand that it must be inverted.  is it something like this:
>>
>> faces of children out the train windows etc. have been instructing him in
>> ways deeper than he can explain
>>
>> or something else entirely?
>>
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