2014: The Death of the Postmodern Novel and the Rise of Autofiction - Flavorwire

Becky Lindroos bekker2 at icloud.com
Sun Jan 4 13:00:40 CST 2015


I think he varies between late Modernist (V, GR) and light Post-Modern with a wee tad of Magical Realism thrown in from time to time.   Whatever works.   M&D and AtD have some sections which "seem to”  lean into the latter, "almost as if”  OBL is expanding himself there.  V, CoL49, Vineland feel more Modernist - a drugged out Oedipa does not mean it’s any kind of PM.   

Bek

> On Jan 4, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Despite this guy's characterization, I still think Pynchon is a late Modernist.
> But others even on this list call him a postmodernist.
> 
> The term has been flashbacked definitionally to include another great
> Englsih novel, Tristram Shandy.
> A novel that is all in the digressions. (the great Samuel Johnson,
> wrong this time (as Wood will be with
> Pynchon) ) said it wouldn't last.."nothing odd will last".
> 
> Man,  is M &D all in the digressions or isn't it?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Postmodern architecture has been considered a collective embarrassment for
>> at least 20 years. Neo-modernism reigns now.  It is not the evangelical
>> modernism of the past. It is all about form, style, magazines.  Green
>> architecture is the closest thing we have to early modernism. Third world
>> outreach architecture too.  I don't know how long Modernism really believed
>> its story.  In architecture PM has long ago lost its welcome.
>> 
>> David Morris
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Like"...yet someone said This articulated below IS also postmodernism (
>>> who cares, just a label) but
>>> The return of realism, the self, different though, is what matters, if
>>> he's right on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://flavorwire.com/496570/2014-the-death-of-the-postmodern-novel-and-the-rise-of-autofiction
>>> 
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