Re: GR translation: Yes well Pirate’s Chapel himself.
alice malice
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Sun Jan 4 19:47:04 CST 2015
Yes. an adjective here, so Pynchon's father is chapel and his mother church.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
> It means he's not affiliated with the established church of England.
>
> More protestant oriented, book of common prayer rather than holy communion
> and such. Farther away from Rome.
>
> It might be called low church, although that term is a little pejorative or
> can be.
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Laura <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> I read it as Pirate IS Chapel. I.e. he's church-raised himself, although
>> not Catholic.
>>
>> LK
>>
>>
>>
>> David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pirate's Chapel would be his own place of personal worship. Historically,
>> European palaces had their personal, familial chapels. In this context,
>> Pirate's Chapel would be his own interior place of personal perdition and
>> guilt. Katje and Pirate share a personal chapel, a shrine in their hearts,
>> that does not absolve them from their crimes. In that regard GR makes them
>> this novel's greatest heroes, apart from Slothrup.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Sunday, January 4, 2015, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> V546.13-41 “My little brother” (Pirate understands the connection she
>>> has made) “left home at 18. I liked to watch him sleeping at night. His long
>>> eyelashes . . . so innocent . . . I watched for hours . . . . He got as far
>>> as Antwerp. Before long he was loitering around parish churches with the
>>> rest of them. Do you know what I mean? Young, Catholic males. Camp
>>> followers. They got to depend on alcohol, many of them, at an early age.
>>> They would choose a particular priest, and become his faithful dog—literally
>>> wait all night at his doorstep in order to talk to him fresh from his bed,
>>> his linen, the intimate smells that had not yet escaped the folds of his
>>> garment . . . insane jealousies, daily jostling for position, for the favors
>>> of this Father or that. Louis began to attend Rexist meetings. He went out
>>> to a soccer field and heard Degrelle tell the crowd that they must let
>>> themselves be swept away by the flood, they must act, act, and let the rest
>>> take care of itself. Soon my brother was out in the street with his broom,
>>> along with the other guilty sarcastic young men with their brooms in their
>>> hands . . . and then he had joined Rex, the ‘realm of total souls,’ and the
>>> last I heard he was in Antwerp living with an older man named Philippe. I
>>> lost track of him. We were very close at one time. People took us for twins.
>>> When the heavy rocket attacks began against Antwerp I knew it could not be
>>> an accident . . . .”
>>> Yes well Pirate’s Chapel himself. “But I’ve wondered about the
>>> solidarity of your Church . . . you kneel, and she takes care of you . . .
>>> when you are acting politically, to have all that common momentum,
>>> taking you upward—”
>>> “You never had that either, did you.” She’s been looking really at
>>> him—”none of the marvelous excuses. We did everything ourselves.”
>>> No, there’s no leaving shame after all—not down here—it has to be
>>> swallowed sharp-edged and ugly, and lived with in pain, every day.
>>>
>>> What's does the sentence "Yes well Pirate’s Chapel himself" mean?
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