Re: GR translation: Yes well Pirate’s Chapel himself.

[Monte Davis]

Paul's nailed it: check "low church" in Wikipedia, Mike. Less to the
Catholic-Episcopalian side of Anglicanism, more to the ever-schisming
Presbyterian/Methodist/etc side... less cathedral, more meeting-house....
less hierarchical authority, more Biblical authority.

In context, I think TRP's voice here edges into speaking for Pirate. The
latter is reacting with distancing -- even a bit of embarrassment -- to the
way the Fascist/Catholic Rexists blurred priest-acolyte relationships and
homosexuality: as if PP is saying ahem, well, not my sort of thing, I'm
Chapel myself.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> It means he's not affiliated with the established church of England.
>
> More protestant oriented, book of common prayer rather than holy communion
> and such. Farther away from Rome.
>
> It might be called low church, although that term is a little pejorative
> or can be.
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Laura <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I read it as Pirate IS Chapel. I.e. he's church-raised himself, although
>> not Catholic.
>>
>> LK
>>
>>
>>
>> David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pirate's Chapel would be his own place of personal worship. Historically,
>> European palaces had their personal, familial chapels. In this context,
>> Pirate's Chapel would be his own interior place of personal perdition and
>> guilt.  Katje and Pirate share a personal chapel, a shrine in their
>> hearts, that does not absolve them from their crimes.  In that regard GR
>> makes them this novel's greatest heroes, apart from Slothrup.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Sunday, January 4, 2015, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> V546.13-41  “My little brother” (Pirate understands the connection she
>>> has made) “left home at 18. I liked to watch him sleeping at night. His
>>> long eyelashes . . . so innocent . . . I watched for hours . . . . He got
>>> as far as Antwerp. Before long he was loitering around parish churches with
>>> the rest of them. Do you know what I mean? Young, Catholic males. Camp
>>> followers. They got to depend on alcohol, many of them, at an early age.
>>> They would choose a particular priest, and become his faithful
>>> dog—literally wait all night at his doorstep in order to talk to him fresh
>>> from his bed, his linen, the intimate smells that had not yet escaped the
>>> folds of his garment . . . insane jealousies, daily jostling for position,
>>> for the favors of this Father or that. Louis began to attend Rexist
>>> meetings. He went out to a soccer field and heard Degrelle tell the crowd
>>> that they must let themselves be swept away by the flood, they must act,
>>> act, and let the rest take care of itself. Soon my brother was out in the
>>> street with his broom, along with the other guilty sarcastic young men with
>>> their brooms in their hands . . . and then he had joined Rex, the ‘realm of
>>> total souls,’ and the last I heard he was in Antwerp living with an older
>>> man named Philippe. I lost track of him. We were very close at one time.
>>> People took us for twins. When the heavy rocket attacks began against
>>> Antwerp I knew it could not be an accident . . . .”
>>>        Yes well Pirate’s Chapel himself. “But I’ve wondered about the
>>> solidarity of your Church . . . you kneel, and she takes care of you . . .
>>> when you are acting politically, to have all that common momentum,
>>> taking you upward—”
>>>        “You never had that either, did you.” She’s been looking really
>>> at him—”none of the marvelous excuses. We did everything ourselves.”
>>>        No, there’s no leaving shame after all—not down here—it has to be
>>> swallowed sharp-edged and ugly, and lived with in pain, every day.
>>>
>>> What's does the sentence "Yes well Pirate’s Chapel himself" mean?
>>>
>>
>
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