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[Ian Livingston]

Jung's version of depth connection was more to do with interior dialog.
Most of us spend a great deal more time in unspoken dialog with various
'others', or various perspectives within ourselves, than we do with actual
other people. The quality of that interior dialog and how to raise, or
deepen it, is what Jung pursued. He even identified the subjective "I" as
merely another position in the dialog, rather than as the "self" of
Lacanian thought. Jung's self was the totality of the interior dialogical
positions. Connection with others is highly dependent upon the relative
integration of the individual's many voices. Might be interesting to watch
how that sort of read plays out as we go.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, did not think you would, but thought Jung might have, but know almost
> nothing. Do you think psychological or spiritual
> depth connection is a deeper way of saying "inner life", that phrase w
> little content (in itself)
>
> Here is the part from Iyer that made me think of the Pynchon and his
> vision of connecting with oneself's being--of should that be Being/-- in
> the world.    Again, not new or profound but Cyprian's way to wisdom?
>
> As friends hurried off to the airport for Rio or Hawaii, I sat in my
> little room and watched the sun burn on the water down below. Light flooded
> into the space every afternoon and then, in the magic hour, the whole place
> began to glow. I nibbled at breakfast bars and listened to public radio and
> did nothing at all, the way it isn’t always easy to do if you’ve paid half
> your annual income to go to Mauritius. Moments carried a depth, a weight,
> of both emotion and association, they’d seldom have in Vegas. It’s not so
> much that we lack food, I remembered Simone Weil suggesting, as that we
> won’t acknowledge that we’re hungry.
>
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> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> "Inner life" is not a term I've ever used. Psychological or spiritual
>> depth connection, yes.  That is in everything Pynchon writes, always in a
>> questioning mode.  I think it is all over M&D.  I'll point it out when it
>> pops upp in the discussion.
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>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:41 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Misc. I thought of this--inner life, perhaps gotten most from Rilke and
>>>> Jung?--- as a Pynchon theme. Although not too much in M & D. is there?
>>>> Perhaps we had more of an inner life then?
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