M & D Deep Duck. Go East, Young Man.

Johnny Marr marrja at gmail.com
Sat Jan 10 21:54:49 CST 2015


Another alternative take - doesn't Cherrycoke simply regard the East as a
more glamorous and intrinsically mystical place than the Americas? Asia
would already have long established associations with the Spice Road, Marco
Polo, the Byzantines, the great intricacies of Indian culture etc whereas
the Americas may have been viewed in 18th century Britain as a terra
infirma being squabbled over by slave trade profiteers and Puritans.

I think Pynchon's trying to emphasise 18th century America as something of
an unformed backwater which few contemporary Britons (perhaps not even
Mason & Dixon) would have contemplated blossoming into the world's leading
power.

On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:

> LOL!  Good stuff there -  thanks! :-)
>
> Bekah
> > On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:01 PM, kelber at mindspring.com <javascript:;> wrote:
> >
> > Clinton I didnt inhale <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bktd_Pi4YJw>
> >
> > The reference to seeing Jean Crapaud (hard not to think of Crapper) is a
> reference to what happens in upcoming Part 4: the Seahorse, en route to
> Sumatra, will be attacked by a French military ship in the English Channel.
> A frightening experience that will make Cherrycoke, Mason and Dixon need to
> run for the crapper.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com <javascript:;>>
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2015, at 11:40 AM, kelber at mindspring.com <javascript:;>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And, of course, the behest to not inhale the hemp is a jest about Bill
> Clinton.
> >>>
> >>> LK
> >>
> >> This is so multi-layered - where’s up?
> >>
> >> But on the next page (?) there’s a lament from Cherrycoke that he will
> “… not be receiving Guidance from Lamas old as Time”  he’d be seeing "Jean
> Crapaud" with guns and a lesson.
> >>
> >> The Lamas are old Hindu teachers,  like gurus.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lama
> >>
> >> Jack Crapaud is derogatory slang for Frenchman - it means “toad.”
> Cherrycoke may be heading to the French & Indian war.
> >>
> >> Bekah
> > -
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