M & D Deep Duck. Go East, Young Man.

[Becky Lindroos]

Note to host - himself over there -  thanks for the commentary on the posts -  it keeps the chatter going (I say) and never fear,  it will no doubt unfold as it should.   The attitude of everyone's commentary (host’s included) has created a brisk and open discussion interesting to first readers and returnees alike.  So far - no one is insisting that his/her ideas are “correct.”  Imo, it’s been a good example for subsequent hosts.

Bek     


> On Jan 11, 2015, at 3:18 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Note to myself: Dear Host---stop commenting on everyone else's posts,
> let them be, let them unfold, it is bad List form (I say)
> 
> BUT
> this post expresses well my simplistic remark about the East and
> 'ideas' that differ from going west---which has lots of the
> connotations surely that Laura adumbrated...westward as the only way
> to 'growth', to Empire-building and more, for example.
> 
> Thanks and back to new posting.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Another alternative take - doesn't Cherrycoke simply regard the East as a
>> more glamorous and intrinsically mystical place than the Americas? Asia
>> would already have long established associations with the Spice Road, Marco
>> Polo, the Byzantines, the great intricacies of Indian culture etc whereas
>> the Americas may have been viewed in 18th century Britain as a terra infirma
>> being squabbled over by slave trade profiteers and Puritans.
>> 
>> I think Pynchon's trying to emphasise 18th century America as something of
>> an unformed backwater which few contemporary Britons (perhaps not even Mason
>> & Dixon) would have contemplated blossoming into the world's leading power.
>> 
>> On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> LOL!  Good stuff there -  thanks! :-)
>>> 
>>> Bekah
>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:01 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Clinton I didnt inhale
>>>> 
>>>> The reference to seeing Jean Crapaud (hard not to think of Crapper) is a
>>>> reference to what happens in upcoming Part 4: the Seahorse, en route to
>>>> Sumatra, will be attacked by a French military ship in the English Channel.
>>>> A frightening experience that will make Cherrycoke, Mason and Dixon need to
>>>> run for the crapper.
>>>> 
>>>> Laura
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 11:40 AM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And, of course, the behest to not inhale the hemp is a jest about Bill
>>>>>> Clinton.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LK
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is so multi-layered - where's up?
>>>>> 
>>>>> But on the next page (?) there's a lament from Cherrycoke that he will
>>>>> "... not be receiving Guidance from Lamas old as Time"  he'd be seeing "Jean
>>>>> Crapaud" with guns and a lesson.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Lamas are old Hindu teachers,  like gurus.
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lama
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jack Crapaud is derogatory slang for Frenchman - it means "toad."
>>>>> Cherrycoke may be heading to the French & Indian war.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bekah
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