M & D Deep Duck. Go East, Young Man.

[Laura]

And a hard act to follow, I fear. Yikes!

Laura

Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:

>Note to host - himself over there -  thanks for the commentary on the posts -  it keeps the chatter going (I say) and never fear,  it will no doubt unfold as it should.   The attitude of everyone's commentary (host’s included) has created a brisk and open discussion interesting to first readers and returnees alike.  So far - no one is insisting that his/her ideas are “correct.”  Imo, it’s been a good example for subsequent hosts.
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>Bek     
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>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 3:18 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Note to myself: Dear Host---stop commenting on everyone else's posts,
>> let them be, let them unfold, it is bad List form (I say)
>> 
>> BUT
>> this post expresses well my simplistic remark about the East and
>> 'ideas' that differ from going west---which has lots of the
>> connotations surely that Laura adumbrated...westward as the only way
>> to 'growth', to Empire-building and more, for example.
>> 
>> Thanks and back to new posting.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Another alternative take - doesn't Cherrycoke simply regard the East as a
>>> more glamorous and intrinsically mystical place than the Americas? Asia
>>> would already have long established associations with the Spice Road, Marco
>>> Polo, the Byzantines, the great intricacies of Indian culture etc whereas
>>> the Americas may have been viewed in 18th century Britain as a terra infirma
>>> being squabbled over by slave trade profiteers and Puritans.
>>> 
>>> I think Pynchon's trying to emphasise 18th century America as something of
>>> an unformed backwater which few contemporary Britons (perhaps not even Mason
>>> & Dixon) would have contemplated blossoming into the world's leading power.
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> LOL!  Good stuff there -  thanks! :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Bekah
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:01 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clinton I didnt inhale
>>>>> 
>>>>> The reference to seeing Jean Crapaud (hard not to think of Crapper) is a
>>>>> reference to what happens in upcoming Part 4: the Seahorse, en route to
>>>>> Sumatra, will be attacked by a French military ship in the English Channel.
>>>>> A frightening experience that will make Cherrycoke, Mason and Dixon need to
>>>>> run for the crapper.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laura
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 11:40 AM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And, of course, the behest to not inhale the hemp is a jest about Bill
>>>>>>> Clinton.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> LK
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is so multi-layered - where's up?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But on the next page (?) there's a lament from Cherrycoke that he will
>>>>>> "... not be receiving Guidance from Lamas old as Time"  he'd be seeing "Jean
>>>>>> Crapaud" with guns and a lesson.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Lamas are old Hindu teachers,  like gurus.
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lama
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jack Crapaud is derogatory slang for Frenchman - it means "toad."
>>>>>> Cherrycoke may be heading to the French & Indian war.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bekah
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