The movie

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Je ne suis pas Henry, but yes, I am experiencing the same
annoyance. On the other hand, having messages from W.A.S.T.E.
land in the trash instead of the in box. Seemed, somehow, 
oddly appropriate. 

As B4

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
To: mutualcode <mutualcode at aol.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: The movie


Is it just me, or is everyone having trouble getting emails from this address delivered to their inboxes? I keep having to rescue them from my spam folder even though I have added the address to my contacts list. I think this is Henry, yes?





On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:24 AM, <mutualcode at aol.com> wrote:

On viewing for the second time, it seemed as if the
film was one long trailer for the text. The experience
made me realize, again, just how dense Pynchon's
writing is- even the comparatively lite stuff. If I had
not read the book first I'd be looking for a copy now
to fill in all the blanks.

The film did clarify some of my impressions of the book.
Shasta now seems like a nostalgic figure for "The Sixties,"
evanescent and enticing, just beyond domestication
but not quite transcendent, sweetly surviving and inverting
co-optation. The FBI freed her from, as much as reclaimed
Mickey for, the Forces of Greed. Her mom would probably
not approve of Doc, however.

But Waterston looked great without make-up!

Doc successfully reincarnated Coy, but re-incarcerated
might be another way of looking at it- Suburban Purgatory.

Coy's dinner scene at Topanga Canyon- Surely
a nod to Altman.

And yes, the line following all the credits should normally
be at the beginning. But maybe all that preceded it are
what we need to look under, to finally get to the bottom
of things, in this case, the text.



> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:16 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 3rd viewing yesterday.  May (or may not) have confirmed Pynchon cameo.
> Also, stay 'til after the credits, after "The End."  THAT should have
> been at the beginning.
>
> I'll go @ least a couple/three times more, w/ various friends,
>
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm ready to see it again!
>>
>>
>> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Third thoughts...perhaps it missed the emphasis on Manson, Altamont and the
>>> end of the sixties in more ways than one....
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Brolin's scene with Phoenix where they go jaw-to-jaw is a
>>>> peak scene, imho, acting is pretty terrid, with Brolin leading.
>>>> Phoenix harder to do movie-length so, nods unto Jeff Bridges a couple
>>>> three times.
>>>> Reese and Mull pros.
>>>> I liked the music.
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I liked it. Believeable well-crafted translation of the book. I liked
>>>>> the close-ups, lots of them, they were in our face in a watch closely
>>>>> kind of way --and the shots of bodies with no heads...I thought the
>>>>> visual puns kept the Sent from my iPad
>>>>> it enabled us to get key plot points and more of P's words...the
>>>>> inherent vice explanation. for example...less moral ambiguity when Doc
>>>>> kills Puck and Adrian Prussian...i did miss the cars up the mountain
>>>>> road ending since that struck me so, since that has changed
>>>>> everywhere.
>>>>> it is still, as is Inherent Vice, more thematically minor than say,
>>>>> Anderson's last two.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a recent novel, Coetzee has the character discussing later Leo
>>>>> Tolstoy, when the considered opinion is his work got weaker as he lost
>>>>> the breadth of real life ambiguity in exhange for stronger polemical
>>>>> skills and the character says that to Tolstoy it must have seemed that
>>>>> he was being clearer and simpler and his beliefs more evident.
>>>>>
>>>>> TRP ain't more polemical, imho, but IV is a simpler clearer embodiment
>>>>> of a lot of P's vision and the movie gets that OK.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The actress who
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