M&D preambulatory profferings

Joseph Tracy brook7 at sover.net
Sun Jan 11 21:40:11 CST 2015


I guess I am having some of these same questions, and  feeling for me the effect was first a hilarious subversion followed by a greater sense of depth and wonder at the complexity of events and minds too easily caricatured by textbook style histories.  
On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:10 PM, alice malice wrote:

>> 
>> An excellent discussion on this topic all round.
>> 
>> A question: if Pynchon is subverting the  historical and political
>> notions of belonging, who holds the notions he subverts?
> 
> Are these the notions of a reader? One who has notions about history
> and politics that are too simple, not Pynchon's,  in need of
> correction? What? Are the notions the reader has created by the
> narrative? In other words, does Pynchon subvert these notions to make
> fun of his readers? To subvert is a tool of the satirists. No? Why
> would he subvert these notions, many of them given to or hinted at by
> the text? Or by history & politics? To make fools of his readers? To
> tickle them out of their foolish notions?
> 
> A Jewish Slave in Washington's home is hardly a method of subversion.
> Or is it? More hysterical as I see it.
> 
> Maybe I don't know enough about America to get all the subversion, but
> then, is Pynchon writing for only those who specialize in American
> Colonial History?
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