Greece is a pawn that has captured nothing

jochen stremmel jstremmel at gmail.com
Sat Jan 31 18:03:15 CST 2015


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2015-02-01 0:56 GMT+01:00 alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>:

> Yes, Greece has captured the attention of the Spanish Left, and lots
> of others, once again. Grexit is number one on the Charts and Spanick
> at the Euro is moving up.
>
> In the end, Greece will make a deal. It may be a good deal for the
> poor and that's what a Left Party should be about. Right?
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> > Some seem to be dancing:On the heels of leftist Syriza’s victory in
> Greece, Spain’s own left party Podemos garnered outstanding support at a
> Madrid rally attended by tens of thousands on Saturday.
> > On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:40 PM, alice malice wrote:
> >
> >> when the Greeks break plates everybody dances? Not this time....the
> >> boy has cried wolf too many times now.   Meet the new boss same as the
> >> old boss. They will cut a deal to "default" and take their medicine.
> >> Iceland is not Greece.
> >>
> >> The commodities so-called super cycle was driven by the expected
> >> demand from China and the newly developing economies, oil was the last
> >> bubble in the cycle to pop, the supply and capacity, productivity
> >> continues to rise though the increase in demand, in China and
> >> elsewhere dis-inflates, the demand in the developed world declines, so
> >> these are not the assets that will increase, but stocks, bonds, the
> >> dollar.
> >>
> >> There are plenty of risks, but the Empire loves risks and will thrive
> on them.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >>> This assumes huge stability for the EU and the global bankers'
> kingdoms.  A stability whose foundations were brought into question in
> 2008.  The Greek people have tried Krugman's "help" and it is a world of
> pain, suicide and humiliation.  Contrast this with the Icelandic response
> in 2008,  and what path would you have chosen? Already major ripples
> through the markets with this, cheap oil, and Switzerland's recent banking
> decisions.
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 9:30 AM, alice malice wrote:
> >>>> which will keep
> >>>> wages down even as asset prices rise. That's CAPITAL in the Empire.
> >>> Not all assets:"The world’s leading index of commodity prices has
> slumped to its lowest level in more than 12 years as China slows and
> America hints at tightening monetary policy. The Bloomberg Commodity index,
> which tracks the prices of 22 different commodity prices such as gold,
> natural gas and oil, fell 0.3pc to 99.84 in early trading, the lowest point
> since August 2002. "
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> While Greece has moved forward on the German and EU board, as Krugman
> >>>> explains, it has done so with grave and serious risk to its citizens,
> >>>> non-citizen workers, its sovereignty, its wealth, it ports, its
> >>>> infrastructure, its credit rating and so on.
> >>>>
> >>>> It has captured nothing but the attention of the players who have
> >>>> advanced Greece on the board. These are the United States and China.
> >>>> Russia, making the news as some sort of ally to Greece is a mere gas
> >>>> station, supplier of resources and soon, military technology to China,
> >>>> for Russia has no choice but to give up all Economic positives, with
> >>>> the exception of the Putin-cronies who continue to rape the nation,
> >>>> for possible Geo-political ones.
> >>>>
> >>>> China is eating Russia and Putin is feeding them with deal upon deal.
> >>>>
> >>>> Greece needs restructuring of debt, that is, a way to default on the
> >>>> debt it can not be expected to pay, and it will get this for the West.
> >>>>
> >>>> All else is just a pawn in a good position for now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Greece has captured nothing.
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